A Vote is NOT a Like - Steemit Explained for Noobs
Facebook Likes and Steemit Votes are not the same - here is why
I am confused about some people discussing which posts deserves more rewards as others. Especially the experienced ones should know better. SMH these days more and more - might be related to the declining steem price - relax, take a deep breath and do not mix up Facebook with Steemit. Some might still use Steemit as they use Facebook (or think it works the same - it is not!) - however the main difference in the following:
On Facebook you like something because it is hot or you agree on a content
Means to me - as a Facebook User I would likely vote for that:
On Steemit you vote something because you think it generates curation rewards
Means to me - as a Steemit User I might even consider to vote this:
This is why some people earn a lot money (if they own enough Steem Power), they do not vote what they like, they vote from an ROI perspective.
Thanks for your attention!
Sources: Pixabay
You are trying to tell the truth about steemit. This is also my passion and my mission. But who makes friends by telling the truth?
I hope you'll have much luck. Upvoted.
It is not about making false friends - however i am not telling anything new but discovered some strange habits recently and wanted to write about - that is all :-) - thanks mate
Good point. The truth sometimes makes people scatter.
I totally agree, yet would personally find it even more to the point to state it as "A Vote is not necessarily a Like*, because many do consider their votes as a like and most of these users don´t care too much about a ROI. And imo there is nothing wrong with that. Along the same lines, also a downvote is not necessarily a Dislike.
This is totally true @shaka - I might change my text and adapt your quote "A Vote is not necessarily a Like"
I'm now following you. Don't get a big head, it's just an investment & educational tool. ;-)
:-) yeah bud, awesome decision
Good point! Steemit hat its own rules. Steemit is NOT facebook. That's quite simple, but sometimes people forget about it.
Yes, but everybody likes a vote :-)
Oh yikes, I realize I am so completely lost on Steemit. I'm upvoting the above post and @shaka's comment because I learned something. I don't like what I learned ;-) and I wish it weren't true.
Vincent van Gogh's ROI was eventually huge, but unfortunately for him, it was a very long term investment. @roused
Du hast den wichtigsten Tag von allen vergessen: #tittietainment! :-D
Aber um auf seriöse Weise auf Deinen Post zu antworten (den ich endlich mal wieder mit 100% voten konnte - VP is back, yuhuuuu!): ein Like auf Steemit ist ein Investment. Eine Vote Entscheidung ist auf ganz anderen Motivationsgründen basiert als es beispielsweise auf FB der Fall ist. Ein Vote kann strategische (ich vote, weil der Empfänger in irgendeiner Weise "bedeutsam" für mich ist) oder ökonomische (Curation Rewards) Gründe haben.
Sicher gibt es auch auf steemit viele User die (immernoch) voten, was sie - aus rein emotionalen Gründen - "gut" finden. Die lernen aber relativ schnell dazu...:-)
Resteemed.
In der Rolle "Curator" kann ich dem Autor am besten meine Wertschätzung ausdrücken, wenn ich dessen Artikel nicht nur vote, sondern auch inhaltsbezogen kommentiere. Ich versuche das bei so vielen Artikeln wie möglich.
Allerdings ist das bei der immer weiter zunehmenden Flut von neuen Posts kaum noch möglich.
Weil ein Vote alleine wenig oder gar nichts über die Motive des Voters aussagt, sollte man nicht zu sehr darüber spekulieren. Als Autor freue ich mich über die Votes, aber auch über die Kommentare, vor allem dann, wenn sie meinem Artikel einen inhaltlichen Mehrwert geben, sei es als Ergänzung oder als Kritik. Ist ein Vote eines Wals mehr "wert" als das eines kleinen Fisches? Gemessen in Payout auf jeden Fall. Bei den Kommentaren kann das anders sein. So ist Steemit eben so vielfältig und undurchschaubar wie das Leben selbst.
Danke meine liebe @surfermarly - gute Punkte - ich wollte lediglich einen Unterschied aufzeigen, den manche (nicht alle) so sehen. Bitte bleib hier und lass Dich nicht unterkriegen, wir alle sind evtl. etwas angespannt und sollten tief durchatmen und uns alle versuchen zu verstehen. Das gilt für alle Parteien. Die Community sollte wenn nicht 100% positiv so zumindest professionell bleiben. Menschliche Reaktionen und Aussagen sollten wir nicht immer persönlich nehmen. Da fasse ich mir an die eigene Nase, da ich auch manchmal überreagiere -am besten einen runden Tisch und persönlich austauschen. Die Community braucht Dich!
I surely agree with the first part... mainly because I do not have Facebook...
But on the second bit, I disagree. I would vote on that picture because I like it too... not because I will get lot's of revenue by voting on it.
I see Steemit as a free open society and definitively not censored, allowing me to freelly express my will. Therefore I can just tell what's on my mind, as anyone else... like you for example. I would also say that mainly the value comes from personal opinion and whatever people identify within it as intrinsic values. This makes up room for what voting on Steemit is all about. People that want voting power, want it for two reasons (mainly), to invest in long term and to have a powerful decision on Steemit! - not necessarily to win more revenue. But sometimes to do simple stuff like, up a reply, or making someone feel valuable because that's what we wish the post to be valued about.
Hence I do really see your view about Facebook... and having some historical reasons for not being on it... I really see why you and I would vote for that amazing picture =)
Although on Steemit, I feel I could vote for that same picture because I would be allowed to freely choose MY importance on it. As opposed to a SIMPLE Facebook LIKE, that has nothing to value on your own opinion (in terms of weight compared with the Facebook community). You get the same value as Michael Jackson for example!
Nice post.. and because I wish everyone to comment and check out my comment.. I will upvote myself (not because I wish to win curation rewards, since I on my current 92% of vote power efficiency). AND I like to vote when I am near 100% if not at it!
You officially have my longest reply... =)
This is an awesome reply and i hope to generate more of these reactions - totally agree. My post is in no way aimed to only vote for sth you get rewarded - it was just a very tight summary of how some people vote. Glad about your reaction, happy to elaborate. Being naive i still believe in the community aspect and censorship freedom to do what anyone wants to do.
Same feeling here!
I upvoten this article because I think the author has put thought into the content and hit a good point in the steem meta game. I value the creation and hope my contribution will bring on other members.
Re-steeme.
Edit: the boobs are also very pleasing to look at
Yep very true.
I personally try to bridge the two, but certainly my votes are distorted by financial incentives....
Thanks mate - me too - if you are not a whale it is difficult, i try to make good split also to help people that i like and that have my back instead of supporting people that do the opposite. Thanks for your support
There are many reasons for voting. A few days ago I got a big vote for only one word.
Nun hast du mit diesem Artikel ein dickes Brett gebohrt und damit viel Erfolg gehabt. Glückwünsch und Respekt für deine Courage. Die Anzahl und Qualität der Kommentare sagt vielleicht mehr als als die Anzahl der Votes und die Höhe des Payouts. Wir sollten alle mehr auf die Wertschätzung achten, die uns durch sinnstiftende Kommentare zuteil wird. Payout ist nicht alles.
Danke @freiheit50 - was meinst mit Courage genau? Stimme Dir in allen Punkten zu
Yeah - makes sense. It is sad in a way or maybe we can say that different people may use this platform for different purposes. It is after all a great place to find interesting articles and information on various topics. With that in mind, I think there are those that are on here primarily for the rewards, others clearly not, they are here to share, learn and connect with like-minded steemians. What I find very difficult as a newbe is that our posts are often zapped by without being noticed. I.e. we put a lot of work in a post and in the end 5 people end up seing it. Personally, I am trying to figure out whether this makes sense for me :) As a source of information I find it interesting and a valuable addition to the social networking landscape. Nice post.
Thanks @snailpath - agreed on different purposes - good to have a mixed community. Being a newbie it becomes more difficult to be noticed that is true - some group might help you there for certain topics or languages - you might want to check relevant gas to build up your network. It sure takes time - i made zero cents in my first months. Keep on trying
Thank you Uwe, appreciate your time and interest! I will go checking for gas now ;)
great explanation
but in this case I like and I vote :D
@kam.ila
Thanks a lot @kam.ila
Hi Uwe,
Yes you are right,
Likes do not produce anything.
I do not think most users on Steemit vote for the curations rewards. Curation rewards are for the small SP holders next to nothing and they must realise this quickly looking at their weekly curation rewards versus weekly post and comment rewards.
And if most of the users would vote to maximise their curation rewards, they do not seem to have the correct knowledge in how their rewards are maximised. It seems that posts with a lot of votes and a lot of rewards will automatically attract even more votes. Users vote for HOT and TRENDING posts. But in fact, the result of such votes are minimisation of their rewards, unless the votes are casted as one of the first, before the big fish casted their votes. And even then, the rewards can be quite low for a small SP holder of which we probably have 99% of in our community.
But actually, I think most of the Steemians do vote what they like, instead of thinking "will I maximise my earnings with this vote?". And to be honest, I would love it when most of the users would indeed only vote for those posts that they read and really liked. The vote slider can be used to express how much you like the post, 100% for awesome and 1% for "I somehow like the post, but somehow also not, but I like to support anyway" or whatever reason it is for a 1% vote.
Thanks for that detailed reply, much appreciated. Agree that as newbie with near to nothing on SP the ROI aspect is not relevant. Personally I try to find a way to vote for both. The Whales might see this different as they might have invested some real money.