On the Академик Ломоносов floating nuclear plant

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Around year 2000 Rosatom initiated a project to mass-produce floating nuclear plants that could be tugged to any destination world-wide, as an alternative to building nuclear plants on-site. The plan was to have 5 plants ready by 2015 (source: wikipedia) - obviously there have been some delays, because the first one, Akademik Lomonsov was completed in the end of April. It's now under tow on the way to Murmansk (spotted outside Senja this Sunday, doing 6 knots, so probably arriving to Murmansk very soon now).


(Marit Hommedal / NTB Scanpix)

The initial plan was to fuel the reactor in St.Petersburg, but the plan was later changed to fuel it in Murmansk - a move appreciated both by the locals in St.Petersburg, as well as the countries passed by the towed reactor.

This reactor will be deployed in the far east harbour of Pevek, the northernmost town in Russia as well as Asia. It's supposed to replace the aging Bilibino power plant.

Critics in Greenpeace, the Norwegian environmental organization Bellona and quite some other environmentalists are against the whole concept, deeming it unsafe. The phrasing "Chernobyl on water" as well as "Chernobyl on ice" has been used, though it's silly rhetoric, modern nuclear reactors are much safer than the Chernobyl-style reactors. The containment structure of a floating nuclear plant is probably less robust than on a modern land-based power station. However, the risks are most likely smaller for such a barge purposely constructed to be a nuclear plant, and permanently moored up in a sheltered harbour, compared to all the nuclear powered submarines, aircraft carriers and icebreakers out there.

A week ago or so, my parents-in-law came for a visit, my father-in-law is a nuclear engineer so naturally I asked him about his opinions. Unfortunately we never got to touch the security-aspect. My father-in-law was generally very negative to the plant - though, I assume the fact that he didn't mention security at all means it's a pretty safe reactor. He may be biased and bitter - a decade or two ago he was working on designing a land-based replacement of the Bilibino plant, when some big boss in Rosatom ordered them to stop, because he had "better ideas". At the other hand, he was happy to recently have earned some money recently doing consulting work allowing the Bilibino plant to operate for three more years (doing simulations using some ancient american-made Fortran code, on a his oldest working laptop).

The comments from my father-in-law was mostly going in the direction of "it doesn't make sense at all". The point of making floating barges should be to save costs and time, but apparently there are neither cost savings nor time savings involved.

Construction of the barge has taken like 15 years, and it's at least another year before it's ready to use, perhaps two years. A land-based plant wouldn't take more time to build, it can be produced in parts, shipped up relatively fast by ordinary freight ships and assembled relatively fast on the site. The barge can only be towed in some 2-3 knots (seems like he was wrong on that account, I think the trip from St.Petersburg and around the Scandinavian peninsula has gone quite fast, and the speed was observed to be 6 knots), the North-East Passage can be particularly challenging for such a tow, it can't follow an icebreaker like ordinary freight ships.

The total cost of building a new replacement power plant on the current Bilibino site would also be a lot lower than the Akademik Lomonosov project. In general, construction is very difficult up there due to the perma frost in the ground, the extreme cold and the lack of summer roads. By now they are currently building a new ultra-secure harbour for the power plant. The Bilibino plant is not located by the coast, it's actually located quite much inland, and it's not without a reason - it's powering local gold mines, that's what they need nuclear power for in such a sparsely populated area. So, with the power now produced in Pevek rather than Bilibino, several hundred kilometres of power lines have to be built - in the perma frost. In those conditions, the ground is constantly moving, and power lines have a tendency to have outages due to the poles tipping over.

At the other hand, Bilibino has all the facilities needed already in place - a hydro dam providing cooling water, powerlines to the consumers, etc.

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This article would have been a great fit for @steemstem- you should think about starting to tag stuff like this under the steemstem tag. (They do require bibliographies and actual links to photo sources as well.)

I think this is more about politics and engineering than science :-)

STEM stands for Science Technology Engineering & Math, so engineering is fine! And plenty of politics shows up there- I write a lot of heavily political environmental posts.

The comments from my father-in-law was mostly going in the direction of "it doesn't make sense at all". The point of making floating barges should be to save costs and time, but apparently there are neither cost savings nor time savings involved.

How does it save time and cost ?
Thanks for the information though. A different yet powerful topic indeed.

How does it save time and cost ?

On the first thought, it seems pretty obvious, there seems to be many advantages with a floating power plant as compared with a fixed land-based power plant:

  • mass production - just like it's a lot cheaper to have one factory in China producing thousands and thousands of shirts than to have one local taylor taking measurements and hand-sewing a personal shirt for you, it can also be cheaper to have one workshop churning out several power plants rather than to involve lots of planners, architects and use lots of on-site workforce to construct the plant. However, while the original plan was to have some 5 nuclear finished plants built already several years ago they have so far only produced one - with this production rate it doesn't seem like they have much mass production advantages.

  • building a nuclear power plant is a long-term project, it requires a lot of political process, planning, and often more than a decade of construction work. Politicians are often not that good at long-term planning. An aging nuclear power plant should have been decommissioned yesterday, must be decommissioned within five years? A full process of getting a new nuclear power plant planned, designed and constructed may take decades, so it's not going to solve the problems. What if it's possible to buy an already-made floating plant and have it connected to the electricity grid within a couple of years? That can really be a game-changer. Then again, it's an open question if they will produce plants without customers already pre-ordering plants, there will always be a big controversy around having any kind of nuclear power plant in populated areas (and most costal areas are densely populated), and quite some local infrastructure (like power lines and a secure harbour) has to be in place on the site, so it's not "just" to buy a plant.

  • those barges can not only be bought, they can also be sold - or even leased - it may be easier for a politician to get public approval for a nuclear barge as a temporary "stop-gap"-measure to fight brownouts than to get public approval for building a permanent power plant. Then again, there are the problems with the infrastructure, as mentioned above.

  • cost savings on the decommission - one can decommission all the barges in one and the same place rather than having a bigger cleanup-operation on the land site.

  • on emergencies, the whole plant can be towed away from populated places. Except the Pevek plant, sinve it will be surrounded by sea ice - but it doesn't count, as it's anyway not staying in a populated place.

It's so good of you to write a full detailed reply to my understanding. Thank you so much

I like the concept, but I am struggling to figure what the point is. If it doesn't save time or money, what upside is there. Could it be safer somehow? I really wonder.

I have to admit, when it comes to nuclear power plants, I am like the majority of humanity, ignorant, except for what the media has told us to think. You are really lucky, I wish I had someone like your father-in-law I could ask about this subject.

I like the concept, but I am struggling to figure what the point is. If it doesn't save time or money, what upside is there. Could it be safer somehow? I really wonder.

It is obviously some theoretical advantages with producing floating plant, one of the being the idea that one should be able to cut costs and time through "mass production". In practice it may not seem to add up though, particularly in the Pevek case - at last if my father-in-law is to be believed.

In politics, lots of apparently silly decisions are taken all the time, either due to stupidity, due to corruption or (one can hope) because the politicians are able to see the "bigger picture".

Stupidity: Sometimes politicians gets obsessed with some grand idea, and it's in the human nature to search for arguments reinforcing whatever viewpoints one may hold and ignore any arguments going contrary to those points of view, causing silly decisions to be made. In this case it may be that the head of Rosatom has become obsessed with the idea of mass-producing floating nuclear plants and fail to see the counter-arguments (this may equally much apply to my father-in-law, he may as well be ignorant to all the benefits of mooring up a floating power plant in Pevek ... if there are any).

Corruption: There are usually persons and companies benefiting from whatever decisions the politicians are doing, and a lot of money goes into different kind of lobby activities - even including direct or indirect kickbacks to the politicians. According to my dad-in-law, the most likely reason was to keep the company producing nuclear reactors for the submarines and ice breakers busy.

The big picture: Like, maybe there are big opportunities for cost savings through mass production, in this case those cost savings are only realized when the second or third power plant is produced. In such a case it's unfair to compare the cost and delivery time of the first power plant with the cost and delivery time of building a land-based power plant - one should rather consider the average cost and time of those floating nuclear plants.

The total cost of building a new replacement power plant on the current Bilibino site would also be a lot lower than the Akademik Lomonosov project.

This was my exact thought too, thinking about it with respect to time, wont this add to already lost time?

Wow the idea sounds so nice to me, it’s the evolution of nuclear plants. You see a barge that could be anywhere in the world in just a matter of time. IMO it’s genius so many land sites doesn’t need to be located in different places when there are mobile plants . It’s genius

A fascinating and educational article about nuclear power @Tobixen
I share your father in law point of view that land-based nuclear power station will be safer and more economical to build.
Compared to many of the power stations with coal and other polluting materials, nuclear power may be a good option.

Best regards
@Siggjo

Интересно! Я о многом и не слышала. Спасибо за фотографию "Akademik Lomonsov" - мощное судно.

In December, they promised to install the first power unit of Bilibino NPP . In Chukotka, any construction is a real feat!

Rarely does the word combination "powerful barge" make any sense :)

What do you mean "In December, they promised to install the first power unit of Bilibino NPP"? December 1974? :-)

In March it was disconnected for scheduled repairs, they promiseuntil December all to finish )

and powerful-means-a huge ))

Aha, I didn't know it was taken down for maintenance, only that it got approval to operate for three more years.

sems like a lot in the old country as gone over my head. this i news to me. feels scary since Murmansk is so close. but am way more afraid of all the old subs up there. has sen some horrible views on tv of dead old subs just sitting there. a guess nrk have talked a lot about this lately

The plant is not going to stay for long in Murmansk (it will be going to the east either in this summer season or the next), and if I understand it right it will also "just" be fueled there, they're not going to turn it critical in Murmansk. Refueling marine nuclear reactors in Murmansk is a routine thing I believe. And yes, the old aging subs there are most likely a bigger problem - but still a minor problem compared to the non-nuclear pollution from Nikel.

A nuclear submarine leaking all if it's radioactive fuel into the sea in Murmansk - it would be a disaster, but still a small disaster compared i.e. to all the mercury and carbon dioxide we've been adding to the sea through coal powered plants.

Talking about nuclear risks, there are three plants that are closer to Norway than Chernobyl - there are NPPs outside Murmansk, Kaliningrad and St.Petersburg. Of those, the plants outside St.Petersburg are of the dangerous RBKM-design, same as Chernobyl. Luckily new replacement reactors are under construction now.

I still remember Chernobyl, it was a disaster also for Norway, and I believe they still can measure slightly elevated radioactivity in reindeer meat from the mid-Norway due to Chernobyl.

That's a great project about neclear energy and non-self-propelled powership to be operated by Russia.
I hope it will use for our developing our future not harm any one. Best of luck.

I hope they are not planning to put any of these where there is the possibility of earthquakes and associated tsunamis.

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