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RE: I Got Flagged Three Times Yesterday. Did You?

I would like the ability to choose where curation goes (i.e. keep it for myself or give it to the author)

I think any vote should be paid out. I don't know if they look past 3 decimals, but a vote is a vote and should be paid.

Dang it, I got my terminology confused. You're still a minnow. I meant red fish. Although, wouldn't that be cool if you were a dolphin? :)

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I guess it would depend on what level of dolphin. A baby dolphin doesn't seem to have a whole lot of juice either, but a 35,000 to 45,000 SP dolphin seems a little more like it.

At any rate, just having double the SP I have now would be nice.

Okay, I figured it was a slip of the brain or something. I just can't resist poking fun sometimes. :)

As far as curation goes, maybe that's something that needs to be proposed. Just pay the person we want to pay.

I'm still coming to terms with how this all works. I figured the only fluctuations I was seeing on my posts (mostly down), were caused solely by the 3.5 day average price of STEEM changing, and seemingly always moving down.

But no, the reward pool also sucks some of it off to give to higher paying posts, right? I mean, I've observed something like that happening when there's not been any discernible change in STEEM price, and the talk about the self-upvote going back to the reward pool confirms that.

So, I don't know. It's a bizarre thing to me all the way around.

I agree that all votes should be paid. I just don't know how that happens on the lowest end, unless things get paid out beyond three decimals.

To get a 100% vote above the $0.03 threshold, you would need a minimum of 300 SP. I don't see that coming from Steemit Inc in the form of delegation to each newer account.

Then, you have just getting rid of the threshold, but there's supposedly a huge computational load to consider. I guess I don't know what the answer is, but dustsweeper exists, which means I can just keep posting, commenting and curating how I see fit and let everyone else do the same. Or not.

I wouldn't mind being a Dolphin. That starts at 5,000 SP. That's not a bad place to be. Although it would be fun to be a 45,000 SP Dolphin, because that's only 5k away from being an Orca! Ha ha.

You'll be getting close to Dolphin status if you double your SP. When that happens... Look out, world!

Poke away! I point out people's mistakes from time to time, so I should be able to take the correction as well. I wasn't thinking clearly.

I don't think it's the computational load they're worried about. It's the loads of new alt accounts that get created to farm for rewards. By having a dust threshold, those don't add up as much.

Yeah, the fluctuations are probably caused by other large accounts voting for things (themselves or otherwise) which lowers the amount that can be directed to you. It's all about percentage of the pool rewards. You don't actually have a specific amount that your vote is worth. It's just a rough estimation of the percentage of the reward pool that it's assigning. If larger accounts use their power to assign shares to others, then the share you assigned is proportionally smaller. It's rather convoluted.

It would be nice if they did a forum and asked people to submit ideas. Even if they didn't hear arguments on them right away, even if they didn't act on all of them, even if they didn't do anything with them... it would still be nice to be heard.

Supposedly, that's what they've done in the past. The last one I know of happened before they announced what would be HF 20 over a year ago. From there, I don't know if there's been any forums.

As it is, we're supposed to be able to rally the troops on our own, and if there's consensus among the Top 20 witnesses, we're supposed to be able to even change code, if someone knows how to do it. Which, I've got to believe someone knows how to do.

So, waiting around and waiting around isn't something we really have to do if we could get our collective act together.

Well, maybe it's a combination of the two, computational load and alt accounts, because I've seen both mentioned, and it seems like there were a few more reasons, too.

Well, however it works, I need a good explanation as to why it can't just be here's what I'm giving you in rewards. I would appreciate it if that happened even if the price of STEEM went down over the 7 day period. Maybe it's just going to take millions of people all upset and complaining at once before there's any change on the reward pool. Right now, it seems untouchable.

I guess I'll be closer if I double my SP, but it would be closer if I tripled it. :)

At any rate, that still seems a little far off. My SP has been increasing slower than molasses all of July. It's going to get a boost here when my part one of my business story pays out tonight. After that, it's back to dismal. :)

It seems like there should be something different, but I'm not an expert, so I can't really claim to have the answers as to how they should do it. I do know that if they made it so whatever your vote was became what the person got paid (even after curation), then the votes values would go way down. There is a lot of SP that doesn't vote in each day's cycle, so it's not factored in. If you made the values absolute, then their value would have to count (including Steemit's SP) and the result would be our votes would drop considerably.

I saw earlier that Dan was still hanging around (I think) using the name "god," of all things. Apparently no confusion as to how he sees himself. He had some quite large accounts that he was using to delegate and from what he said, he's going to burn the master passwords for that account, so his delegations will become permanent.

I think they were mostly delegated to charity accounts and those who are trying to help others, but it will be interesting to see if there's any fallout from that. Irrevocable delegation? Sounds nice to be on the receiving end of.

I suppose I should just give up and feel happy that anything, let alone the majority, goes to whoever I drop it on. I certainly don't have the answers, but I can see you know more about it than I do. I guess I'm glad that not everyone upvotes in a day. It's not going to look pretty then when things explode around here.

I just checked on dan and god and the latter isn't doing much yet. In the case of dan, he's still sitting on over 400,000 STEEM. I think between that and the quintuple dolphin amount he has powered up, he's barely a whale if he wanted to be.

The larger accounts delegated must be something else because neither of those were getting or receiving delegation.

I'm sure he finds the use as an account name very humorous, which doesn't exactly endear him to me. And since I was on the fence to begin with, I'm headed in the wrong direction. I'm sure EOS is going to turn out just fine, though. :)

Irrevocable delegation. It seems to be me that as long as an account is open, there's a way to get into, even through a backdoor if necessary. I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that, though. I'd need to know the person(s) pretty well before I would go and irrevocably delegate SP like that.

But then, it's not likely I will ever have so much SP that I can basically burn alt account passwords. :)

The account he was talking about is "dimimp." It was in his latest post from the god account. You can read the post here. https://steemit.com/@god/god-is-now-back-on-steem

You can also read his post on why he turned his back on Christianity here. I haven't read it yet, I just noticed the link on my second glance at the first post. So I have no comments on it at this time. https://steemit.com/philosophy/@dan/why-i-gave-up-christianity

Even if he was just protecting it from trolls, I think he should have just left it alone. Seems a bit sacrilegious to me. Although his brother is religious, so maybe he just likes messing with his brother's head. Or at least trying to.

Regarding knowledge about the system:

I got a lot of that from a commentversation I had with tcpolymath. He explained it well. I can't remember where he posted it, so you might just ask him if you're curious.

I think I've ran across enough posts about turning their backs on Christianity or religion in general, so I'll probably pass on that one. Anyone who might feel the need to actively mess with someone else's beliefs, regardless of what they are, is not a good person in my book.

I really don't go around questioning the nonbelief of atheists. I'm not sure why they need to go out of their way to bash. You don't like a post, downvote it. There's no need to get belligerent. It's not like we're going to break into a proof of the existence of God using the scientific method or whatever other acceptable standard there may be.

I'll try to get to the other post, though. It's always good to know what platform masterminds are doing.

I still haven't read it so I can't say that it's worth your time because I don't know. Unless you had a personal relationship with the guy, it probably wouldn't be meaningful.

Scientific method on Steemit?! Ha. There's only a 0.82% better chance of that happening on here than there is on facebook. And I did the math on that... which coincidentally was 50% of that 0.82%. So things aren't looking good. Ha ha. I cracked myself up.

It's always good to know what platform masterminds are doing.

They are the minds who are our masters on here, so the designation is fitting. There's a lot here that they control, or at least influence heavily and hold the keys to change.

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