The experience of Steem time
I just got a reminder of the 2-year anniversary of the Steem All Time High and found it fitting to another conversation I had over dinner with my wife last night. In that discussion, I was talking about the potential for Steem to do well and she of course has heard it all before in one sense or another and is likely tired of waiting. But, as I said to her, what does the time really matter? If it is 1 year or 5, as long as it eventually moves significantly it is going to be well worth the time, money and effort invested.
I think this is one of the problems with the limitations of our human minds to appreciate the future value of something, as while we can imagine the future, we aren't very good at being patient to get there. Looking forward, it always seems to take longer, but looking back it was really a blink of the eye - once the reality of experience has tempered the view.
When I was 20, being 40 seemed like a very long way in the future, but now that I am there, being 20 doesn't seem all that long ago. And, the older we get the faster time moves as relatively, one year is significantly less percentage wise than it was when young. 1 year for my daughter is 1/3rd of all of her experience for 33%, 1 year for me is 1/40th meaning 2.5%. That makes a difference to our outlook and understanding.
This likely plays a role in the way younger people invest and why many older people wish they had invested much earlier than they had. There is always tomorrow runs out of influence when the sense of tomorrows ending can be felt. I believe that this perspective and understanding of the future is likely part of the reason at least why some people are instant gratifiers, while others can delay their gratification, with the latter much more likely to be successful in life. This isn't just for financial considerations of course, as skill development takes time also and possibly, people who can delay gratification might be more open to taking the time for skill development, which is not an overnight process.
I believe time on Steem is not like time on other social medias and it is easy to see since many people have already been on Facebook for something like 12 years now, without having the sense that a great deal of time has passed. Due to the investment state of Steem however and the opportunity for financial return, the risk, the cost and of course, the expectation of a result, time operates under a different quantifier. As Einstein indicated, time is relative and it depends on our circumstances. Time flies when having fun, it goes much slower when waiting for a desired outcome.
I have been on Steem for near three years and have spent more time writing and reading here than I have in all the other years combined, and I could read and write from four years of age and went to university. What we experience, the way we behave in our environment and what we react to is going to skew our perspective, which is likely why some people are happy to be patient and work toward the future, while others want to take shortcuts and demand immediate results. This is not just the Steem experience however, it is also heavily influenced by off-Steem life conditions also.
If a person is hungry, the mind is consumed by the hunger and the next meal can't come soon enough. But if a person is relatively content, there is no great rush on getting food into the mouth. The expectation of time when Steem or crypto in general is going to answer financial prayers is going to depend on off-Steem contentment, with those who have economic availability like savings or a job to pay the bills being in a better position. This also alludes to the propensity to take on risk as well, as those who have no rush generally have a little more disposable income available.
Desperation for outcome is going to skew time and likely slow it down when the outcome is positive, like a financial return, or speed it up when negative like a ticking bomb about to explode. Perhaps we become better investors or at least, more aware of investing once the sense of time weighs on our shoulders and maybe a lot of the impatience we have is when we want an outcome without having a good sense of time itself. A long time for a child is a year, what is a long time for an investor?
While everyone hopes to get rich quick, rarely will it happen and rarely will whatever it is that created the value will last. When it comes to building something that is lasting however, it takes effort and time to develop a foundation that can be built upon, and when that building requires a paradigm shift in thinking about fundamentals we have come to accept, nothing moves quickly.
Until we look back.
Taraz
[ a Steem original ]


Some people are just not cut out for this kind of thing. I find it astonishing because the opportunity cost in this case is time spent on mainstream social media. Why not just make home on Steem instead? For extroverted people in particular who have no trouble making new friends the opportunity cost is negligible. Just by socializing and sharing your thoughts and your pastime pursuits here leads to accumulation of stake in the first decentralized content delivery protocol in the world. The deal is just too good to pass up.
I relly think that once the "possibility of money" comes into play, the normal concept of social media gets replaced. I was talking to a colleague about it today and how people on steem generally act better than those on other medias, and I think it has to do with the potential gain or cost.
In which case my first post was two days before the ATH - so all I have known is the gradual reduction in value at the same time as the increase in functionality and purpose of the blockchain. It’s been a long time! But hopefully we have much better times ahead in 2020!
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How i see it is that you have made it through the worst and are still around, getting through the improvement will be a highly uplifting experience. I can't wait to see all the people who have survived and thrived in adversity start to reap some rewards and really experience what having stake can mean.
The atmosphere on here will be amazing if we start an upward trend. Thanks for your continued contributions.....
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Yes, and it will bring on so many new people with new ideas and lives to offer :)
I am presently trying to get my daughter (and her mum) to get involved with actifit but they are put off by the time I suggested it may take to build something worth cashing out.
If this thing runs for another 15 years, she won't be 30 years old and would have a fair selection of tokens by then. I'll try again soon :)
I find that attitude difficult to comprehend. You can use Actifit in combination with Fitbit from what I've understood. Making the Actifit posts is very easy to integrate with your exercise routine, which is the primary benefit from using Actifit anyway. But, pray tell, what other activity monitoring app distributes anything of any value at all?
What kind of an attitude is "Yeww, I'm only getting 5 cents worth of tokens per my daily run, not getting on board. I'll just use Fitbit and get zero."? This sort of an attitude is not limited to your daughter and her mother, of course. It's a general flaw in how the human mind works as it is a symptom of our greed, impatience and illogic. If we get X and not X+Y, we'll just sit around and sulk and do nothing.
Actifit should be sold as an activity monitoring application. Downplay the rewards. Tell your daughter and her mother to forget about the rewards for now, for many years in fact, and just treat them as a type of lottery ticket redeemable in 10 years, which they get for free as a bonus for using Actifit to record their walks, runs or whatever. It would be a fine app even without any rewards because your training record is stored on a blockchain, which means you will never lose it should your hard drive crash or something. An acquaintance of mine who is an amateur marathon runner lost his training records spanning many years because of a hard drive crash. Now he has to come up with a training schedule from scratch, which annoys him to no end because his old routine worked so well as to enable him to hit a personal all-time record.
All the rewards should be downplayed at the start.
Once the possibility of "earning" arrives, people start to think of their time as being valuable A good thing in some sense of course, but can make many people inactive unless they are getting paid to be active, and getting paid significantly, even though the task is one they were happily doing for free earlier.
The focus on rewards might be better pushed to earning points that can be used later, like a game.
Exactly.
Lamenting the logical failings of the human mind will not get us anywhere. Instead we must find ways to work around those flaws. What your suggesting makes sense. Gamify even the financially insignificant rewards most people are capable of getting at first.
Playing a game for points, with the prospect of winning something nice in the future. I'l see what I can do.
"you have won your college tuition fees!"
'I paid the deposit for my house by exercising when I was younger'
LOL
That could literally turn out to be true.
A man can dream :)
Yeah, I'm with you :)
I'll keep trying.
It is like Markku said above about doing what they do normally, just with crypto :D
Walk and get some tokens, take a selfie and get laughed at, and probably still get some tokens.
Yup. She has the tracker and a phone, and an account is no problem. My STEEM and SPORTS vote each day would make some decent pocket money in time.
Should be great for spending down the local.
Would be interesting to teach about management and investment and potentially would become a great onboarding foundation builder to then go onward and support herself.
Using a pseudonym as the Actifit account name would be very astute for multiple reasons. First of all, Asher's daughter is a teenage girl and everything posted to Steem is public and cannot be removed, including any information she reveals about her whereabouts in her exercise logs posted to Steem. Secondly, the UK could tax all crypto earnings based on the value of the tokens at the time one receives them in one's wallet. If that is the case, any short-lived spike in the token price could lead to tax liabilities exceeding the value of the tokens one has in one's wallets when the tax bill is due. That's unlikely to be an issue at all at first but if the value of the self vote grows seriously large - and it could during a spike particularly after some years of accumulation - that could create a nasty tax liability unless cashed out and the tax money set aside immediately. (Finland's tax guidance on virtual currencies is quite lenient in the sense that virtual currencies internal to online game platforms or other "internet programs created for mainly for entertainment purposes" as the guidance puts it are not considered taxable income until they are cashed out into fiat, external virtual currencies or used to pay for goods or services. But not every country taxes virtual currencies similarly.) Most people use pseudonyms on Internet discussion forums and on Steem-based apps that is particularly wise because of Steem is a public blockchain.
Tax is one issue, but the more pressing one is the whereabouts I think. I reckon that there should be a way to mask some of the data that it tracks, but people are generally the weakest link in this, not the inability to mask.
The tax issue is indeed solvable by simply paying the taxes by the book. Just cash out enough on a constant basis, report the income and pay the tax. At first, the income would be so small as to be insignificant and perhaps fall under a possible threshold of taxable income to begin with. But later it might be best to just report it accurately and pay it.
Actifit by itself does not track anything. It merely asks for a minimum-length verbal account of the training session and some categorizing questions about it. Actifit records and posts the number of steps automatically. The user is free to include images to the Actifit post. I think it would be best not to a) post under your own name and b) not to use FitBit to publish the exact route used.
Just some generic facts about your run/walk and how you felt, speed, heart rate or something like that would suffice.
I think eventually the taxman will catch up with most, unless the entire fiat economy implodes and they want to get n on crypto ;D
I wouldn't want my wife posting her travel routes around the place, but it seems to be pretty common place as people take the "it won't happen to me" approach.
I have a theory on the shortening perception of the passing of time as we age.
Every time we do something for the first time, our brain drops a little mile marker in our memory.
When we're young, we're doing lots of things for the first time, and when we look back on a year, it seems to have taken a very long time.
I don't remember the last time I did something for the first time, so in hindsight, looking back at the mile markers, my late 30's seem to have flown past.
If I spent a year doing brand new things, then looked back on it, I reckon it would feel like a year.
ooh, that is a pretty cool theory I think and what I experience when travelling on holiday. A day of seeing new things is much longer than a day of doing what is usually done. Perhaps it is also about the energy spent to pay attention?
Ironically because its all so interesting and new, the day flies by; it's only in hindsight that it seems like a long day.
The opposite for waiting at the DMV. Takes forever at the time, but when you look back its just a blink of the eye.
time flies when you are having fun. I am always surprised when travelling how much is possible to achieve in a day, while at home --- how little.
The awkward silence while thinking of something witty to say while sitting with a pretty girl is a lifetime :D
The best part about waiting is being apart of this community! It’s funny how people come to this platform for different reasons. I grew up with Youtube. Two years ago I began to get increasingly angry with the platform purposeful shadow banning of certain topics and people. I think the web culture will have to shift to a decentralised platform if we want to retain the information.
Once enough people seek alternatives and then realize that there are additional benefits such as ownership and earning potential, they will start to shift and more will gravitate to the mass.
that is because we have develloped more routines, do more things on autopilot. That is also when we go on adventures they seem to take longer. Move away from the autopilot and the time will seem to stretch as well and seem longer again.
@mattclarke was just talking about this too and I think it is a decent theory. Attention paid to what is unusual and new stretches time, time is lost to what has become automatic. Interesting stuff!
Patience is a virtue. Throwing the towel in is just not in my nature, especially when I'm having so much fun. Most things that I have accomplished have taken years to realize any gains, and waiting for crypto in general to take hold is no different.
There is a line from Desiderata that reminds me to enjoy the entire journey, not just the results. (Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.)
Have a great weekend!
Many in crypto haven't lived enough life to really understand what time it takes, and how fast it moves when looking back
Have great weekend too. Here, Monday is a public holiday, which is always good.
Life sure does seem to pass in the blink of an eye, especially when all is good.
Public holiday on Monday, what's the occasion?
It is the Epiphany (the day 3 dudes gave weird presents to a baby I think).
I think the difference between mainstream media and us is the community part of it. On Facebook, looking for connection is easily interpreted as looking for attention. People trend for allthe wrong reasons just because they dared shared the issues we are trying to solve here.
If Steem was being distributed equally and fairly and somehow it found its way where it belongs on those charts on coinbase, wouldn't we be solving the most immediate and personal needs for people who can trend on Facebook if they shared them there? Haven't we done it before?
I will stay and build whatever I can waiting for the awakening of the #newsteem to spread far and wide as I look forward to change my life through it. And that id definitely happening... I mean Steem changing our lives :)
Most social media attention is driven by outrage and non-acceptance of various kinds. Those on Facebook who share their lives, don't really get far from doing so, other than some sympathy from friends. What makes them valuable is the leveraging of their network to the various advertisers.
For the distribution to get better (it is getting there slowly) it requires more people to hold. Many who earned in the past cashed out, which is fine but it doesn't really help them support others.
Clears throat... Me being among them. You see, those of us that were brought here by the Jerry Banfield's wave came knowing that this was an earning opportunity. Whatever little one gathered was meant to be processed fast by whomever their trusted to their local currency! And very 'kindly' we were introduced to @blocktrades and the rest :D
It was never about the community or what can be achieved if one held on to their Steem or SBDs. We came to earn and peanuts we earned! Smh.
And yet, you are still here, he is not.
The community has got stronger in some areas, weaker in others and I hope the strong will thrive once the functionality and tools arrive.
Wait... he left?
Damn. Lol.
I just saw this...
Sticking around for the community. This is where I feel like myself the most so yeah, I am staying.
Well, he was posting here but not really here - just dumping.