Does life experience change the way people use Steem?

in #steemit7 years ago

The cryptosphere is a very young space and many of the people within it are very young also. There is a large and diverse range of people at Steemit for example but I wonder, how many are parents? How many are even financially independent to some degree in the real world? does it matter?

What I think I recognize here to some degree is a relatively large difference between the behaviors between generations and, between those who have experienced a fair bit of life or, who have children.

I am not saying this because I have a kid and therefore I know stuff but, I do think there is something to be said about having the responsibility of another's life on one's shoulders and, I do think it changes behaviours. At least for me, I think I take my own behaviour more into account, even when my daughter isn't present. I also take my ethical and moral positions more seriously than I did previously also.

I don't know everyone's story but, I do see some people who have grown in apparent privilege and are possibly still relying on their parents for support, behaving in ways that indicate a level of immaturity or, ignorance to life's sufferings. I wonder if a lack or abundance of life lessons is indicative of behavior here and how various backgrounds or lack of experience may affect actions and perspectives.

It is hard to tell who and what people are because of anonymity but hypothetically, what could we predict? Could we profile people accurately based on basic data points?

I know when I read some people's fiction stories I can pretty much tell how old they are. With my background, I can definitely tell if their mother tongue isn't English as the sentence structure is immature and the use or overuse of some forms is a telltale sign, as is the clunkiness of vocabulary. Some just try too hard and are too literal and it shines through. But, I have spent the last 15 years reading text from foreigners so, it really isn't overly difficult for me.

Based on the topics and structure, I can also tell if they are experienced. Perhaps they are able to impress other non-native audiences but, would their work and ideas hold up under real scrutiny? I saw someone advertising proofreading services the other day and in their first paragraph, I counted about 5-6 errors at a glance. Errors aren't a problem.. unless you are offering proofreading services.

However, the writing itself is only one part of it. I wonder more about the behaviours and perspectives of Steemit. Does the average person without children use the platform differently than those with? Do they view the level of personal gain and community sharing differently? How many of the bidbot operators have kids? Does someone who has survived cancer have the same view of earning here as someone who is just into their university? Is the willingness to flag or not affected by history or life position? Are the early 20s users more likely to be more greedy or selfish than someone in their 40s?

We can't have the answers to these things but my intuition based on my own experience and my observations here tells me that on average, those who have seen more of life and have more real-world responsibility are the ones who not only take this more seriously but the ones who are 'less* likely to engage in borderline or anti-social behavior. This wouldn't be a hard rule of course, there is a lot of probable overlap but, that is what I think I observe.

Based on this, in my thinking, the reason for it is because the people who have experienced real hardship or do have real responsibilities like children are probably more understanding of the importance of a social support network and ar therefore likely to be more compassionate towards others also as they have known hard times.

Even something I think of as recent like the 2008 economic crisis was ten years ago. If someone is 22, what do they really know of it? Sure, they can talk of the theory that they learned at school but, do they know what it is like to have customers cut their contacts because they just can't afford training? Or, do they know what it is to sell a house to pay for a mother with cancer? I do. And, so do many others. What about the dot-com bubble at the end of the 90s or the global recession at the start of the 90s? Does actually experiencing these things change behavior?

I wonder if there is a difference between the behavior of women who have given birth and who have not, who have lost a child or who are just out of their teens themselves. I wonder if there is a difference between the men who have never really had a serious relationship or, those who have held their partners hand during childbirth unsure if their partner is going to make it. Do they treat the platform differently do they treat the people on the platform differently?

I also wonder if between the experienced and the less so if there is a difference in their willingness to engage, the quality/type of content, the level of resilience and the drive to actually make this work. Do they take it more seriously, are they more professional, do they bring their skills onto the platform?

From what I see, many are younger and if you ask older people they will generally tell you how stupid they were when they were young. They thought they knew a lot but as life unfolded, they realized they knew very little. What they know now they also know they know very little but, some of it isn't classroom lessons out of a textbook, it is battle tested.

I just wonder if we did know more about people, what could we see? It is pretty interesting o think about how the experience of different users might affect the way they use the platform, how do they use their votes, do they sell them, how willing they are to push or commit to a long-term view or, if they are more likely to jump ship if it gets too hard.

These kinds of data points and many others would likely yield some very interesting results that could change the way the platform development goes. Perhaps it would cater for a different type of user or, new apps might be created. Of course, this info isn't available for the most part since people join anonymously. I wonder, are those with kids more or less likely to be anonymous here?

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You hit some hot points here and i will love tp answer these questions

Does the average person without children use the platform differently than those with? yes differently in a more committed and obsessive way.

Do they view the level of personal gain and community sharing differently? no,same as others, maybe a little more.

How many of the bidbot operators have kids? I know Jerry's got a kid, not sure about the number of the others though

Does someone who has survived cancer have the same view of earning here as someone who is just into their university? no one has higher level of approach with maturity and experience than the other.

Is the willingness to flag or not affected by history or life position? yes actually

Are the early 20s users more likely to be more greedy or selfish than someone in their 40s? yes actually a lot of them dont know anything about commitment or longterm, even people in their 30's fall in this category

I dont have a child, yet, but i can tell you that the way i treat steemit is on a more personal note, im just 4months in but im willing to see this through with all i can, a lot of older people with child mostly have other businesses which means less time for steemit, so they might want to make their while count more than a lot of people without a child who live on steemit.

I see a lot of those with kids to be less anonymous

all are my opinion

Thanks :)

It is interesting to think about a little isn't it?

Absolutely!

Maybe not everyone but it sure does me!

My regular commenters seem to range from kids in upper secondary school to middle-aged people with families. For the younger ones, life seems to be full of possibilities. There is a great deal of optimism and energy as well as uncertainty. A general unawareness of limitations is observable. While it is true that as one ages one's potential is diminished, that is not what I mean. With experience, one's understanding of the future potential of things gains structure and form.

I know when I read some people's fiction stories I can pretty much tell how old they are. With my background, I can definitely tell if their mother tongue isn't English as the sentence structure is immature and the use or overuse of some forms is a telltale sign, as is the clunkiness of vocabulary. Some just try too hard and are too literal and it shines through. But, I have spent the last 15 years reading text from foreigners so, it really isn't overly difficult for me.

I had a very interesting experience reading the posts of someone both you and I know here. This guy lives in Finland and is a most likely a native of this country. But I never realized it because I had not paid any attention to his profile and because his English seemed to flow flawlessly and naturally like that of a native speaker. After a while, I picked up some things in his language that indicated otherwise. He also posted pictures of his neighbourhood a couple of months ago at which time I looked at his profile and saw that he was in Finland. The weather at the time seemed to indicate that he probably lived on the south coast of Finland. Then I realized that despite the small imperfections in his English, the lack of negative transference from Finnish was why it took me so long to realize he was a (probably) native of Finland and that this was most likely because his native tongue was probably Swedish and not Finnish. Much later, I heard him speak English in a DLive broadcast. Definitely not a native speaker of English. His accent sounded like one of someone whose first language was Swedish (the dialect spoken in Finland). Finally, some weeks later, he replied in Swedish to a long comment written in Swedish. While that is not definite proof of anything, the Bayesian likelihood of his native tongue being Swedish increased greatly.

Yes, I could pick it from the text non-native (remember my job the last 15 years) and after a bit of a chat, worked out a lot of other things. It is actually a bit harder for me though because in TRE there aren't a lot of SWE native speakers I have met (who aren't actually Swedish).

If you have enough experience and pay a little bit of attention, you can tell a great deal about someone from the way they approach their text. In chat, there is of course a lot more told as there is less time to think and correct so more leaks.

I've known a few Finland Swedes in Tampere. They have all been highly proficient in Finnish to the point of being functionally bilingual. Their accent gives them away as Swedish-speaking only when they pronounce Swedish words. One guy was trilingual. He had a Swedish-speaking mother, a Finnish-speaking father, and a lot of experience speaking English which he spoke really well with a southern English accent. He said his knowledge of each of the three fell somewhat short of a native speaker of only one language.

There are a few things I gleaned off this post. Theoretically a demographic analysis will help in improving the platform but I am not exactly sure if profiling can work on what we have here currently. If it comes down to it we can even profile a person based on how they eat, but for data to give any substantial result we would need volunteers. If we get results from that then the obvious question would then be - do we need a soft upgrade or we go for Steemit v2.0?
As we stand now I doubt any kind of a targeted upgrade to the system would be taken kindly. I have no proof but I think people here are more likely to stick to anonymity than other platforms.

of course they will stick to anonymity as that is a large part of thre draw here but, hypothetically it would be interesting I think. Hivemind will have the ability to reate polls and forms, perhaps on a volunteer basis somethings could be learned but it would require honesty to have any sense and well, that isn't necessarily in abundance here either :)

This is apt and thought provoking. But this got me in an unexpected manner....

How many of the bidbot operators have kids?

I would really like someone to answer this question and preferably a bidbot owner or user.
However, I know that there are questions that don't have answers and maybe this is just one of those questions.

Lots of interesting things :)

I saw someone advertising proofreading services the other day and in their first paragraph, I counted about 5-6 errors at a glance. Errors aren't a problem.. unless you are offering proofreading services.

This got me laughing, how ridiculous, but then its the truth, people who were of the 60's or less have a moderate and fair behavioral pattern compare to the 90's.
The taking responsibility part is something closely related to background if we say people who have kids behave in a more ethical way, then why are we still having single mom..
Maturity can be inherited or developed it depends on ones determination to be better for him/herself first then reach out to others...
Personally i think i am more better giving wise since i joined steemit, the etiquette i met here was overwhelming i copied that and use it daily.
Now i have one principle, which is

What i have is not truly mine.

Not just in talking but also in doing, apart from the monetary gains, i have developed myself a lot on steemit the people are so awesome and the reception responses from people who barely knows me, its just so unbelieveable. I commented on a steemians post just mentioning that i was in a tight position paying my tuition fee and bam she dropped 5sbd in my wallet, that was worth a lot if sold in my country i was speechless, what really got me arrested was that i checked her wallet and that was all she had, i wanted to return it she refused i told her i could manage she still refuse to take back the sbd... Since then i made steemit my home a lot of people have in one wag or the other affected my life on steemit and am greatfull.
Finally being a university fresher doesn't make you less mature or to have a bad behaviour towards the society, i love reading your post @tarazkp its always insightful and thought provoking.. Now i need to evaluate myself more cheers..

I think a lot of people have and could benefit a lot in the future from the platform if it would distribute a little more widely. the work needs to be done of course. I don't think the platform is mature enough yet to support a lot of people but, it could be in a year or two.

The truth is that humans are product of TRAITS AND TRAINING. So an individual clearly exhibits that traits they are born with, even though training impacts on traits. but when they both work effectively together, an individual becomes WHO THE HAVE TO BE.

Like you pointed out

I know when I read some people's fiction stories I can pretty much tell how old they are. With my background, I can definitely tell if their mother tongue isn't English as the sentence structure is immature and the use or overuse of some forms is a telltale sign, as is the clunkiness of vocabulary.

I can't agree less.

i also think that life's struggles make you compasssionate about others. when you have experienced the other side of life. you probably understand better and help others not to experience them

you think alot and i think i enjoy reading your perception about life, BEST REGARDS

Hi Taraz. You raise some interesting talking points on this post. Don't honestly know as each generation seems to be very different from the next. The rules seem to change.
When I first started work everyone told you stick it out and make a career. Start at the bottom and work your way up basically. Get experience and then you can move on to something better. Then it changed it wasn't frowned upon to have worked for 2 or 3 companies over a 2 year period. You were getting experience in different work environments. I still feel the opposite, why train someone who is leaving in six months. I think the youth of today is impatient and will look for shortcuts to the top. They are ambitious and want everything now. They won't work for it either and believe they are entitled to whatever they expect.
Actually to answer some of your questions from your post the majority of the older generation will be a part of the community like you and I but the younger ones it will be a no.
Don't proof read this as I write what I think lol.

I still feel the opposite, why train someone who is leaving in six months.

Yeah and I think I hold a similar notion here. Why upvote someone who won't be here in six months? I don't mean the people who will leave because of lack of support, I mean the people who are always looking for the latest and greatest. They are the worst friends to have and never have your back.

Actually to answer some of your questions from your post the majority of the older generation will be a part of the community like you and I but the younger ones it will be a no.

I think this too. There is not a lot of stamina in the younger generations of commitment is required

So It's not just me who thinks like that. Thought I was the odd one out. Times have definitely changed.

There are exceptions of course but, they are getting few and far between. Those who truly are willing to drive themselves are going to do very well.

Hey wonderful post!

Truly nice to hear - I felt it was very grounding - Certainly something younger yolk need to hear from they're elders.
Constructive insights.

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There are many different users on this platform, different ages,styles and backgrounds. I personally feel that in order to share something valuble you require life experience and a couple of good slaps to the face. As far as kids go, I don't have kids yet and I really hope this year we will start working on that and about the anonymity - all the people I follow and have children share it very often, I think anonymity is more of young thing.

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