I need some advice from steemit
So I found this video, was looking around for someone to make fun of and OMG what I fell into was like oh shit. So first 5 min into it and I was was blown away. vampirekin and catkin, holy shit! I had met all the things I was looking for, not a kid and saying crazy shit. I swear it hast to be roasted, if I don't do it someone else will. Then all of a sudden she said something and I thought That is the part where the you just won alarm goes off clip. she just said its because of my mental illinesses. the truth came out and all of a sudden I listened well. This chick is fucked up. Like really, cutter and suicidal and all of a sudden I realized it would not be nice to leave a comment that says stupid or to make a video of. I could be wrong though.
I could just do the first 5 min and then end it. she even sites Wikipedia, therian.org, otherkin.org and shit like that as facts. she also makes the comment that she learned about it from tumblr. I swear it could be the greatest video ever if cut some what short compared to the whole 18 min of insanity it is.
Let me know if you think it would go to far to make fun of this video and to call this chick stupid. I need input to decide if I should make fun of the first 5min or so.
Fuck I feel like I should just do it and not care about what happens.
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Cutting yourself is stupid!
So are many other things people do. telling her it's stupid won't change her opinion of it. It might make her cut herself more.
Self mutilation has a long history in many religions including Christianity and Judaism etc... Comes in all form and type from whipping you self to hot wax and more.
Tell her and i don;t think it will change her much. She seems quite content with who she is and what she does. She wouldn't have posted it if she did'y expect some feedback.
let us know how it goes.
naw don't think I was going to and was only looking for reinforcement as to not do it.
The main reason is I don't want to be the reason for more cutting/suicide. also why I asked here where she will not see it.
That video is more of a why you don't let your kids grow up on tumblr post then a stupid guy video anyways. Besides someone else will make fun of that video im sure of it. not often you find a video of that much propaganda for this revolution going on but she had to be just one toe over the line and just asking if I should do it ha gotten enough voices behing it that I would hate to see what happens if I did make the video. Not to sure if others would see a cartoon emoji telling someone crazy to drink bleach as funny or it alarms went off when she finally says she has mental problems.
Also, this movement has a lot of people claiming to havemental problems when they don't, kind of like victim points or something. claiming they have ptsd, claiming they have ocd and on and on with lies after lies. plus they are saying they ate part cat or dragon or bird(for fcks sake) and we know that's not true so why believe them when they say they are susicidal and a cutter in a happy bragging way. also I knew a couple cutters and most the time they are always covered up (not showing off their arms and legs) as to hide the cuts. Most that I have met aren't proud of it they know its wrong and are ashamed of it.
if nothing I say or do will get her to stop then how can anything I say or do make her do it more? lol its basically a damned if I do and damned if I don't. but at the same time this is the crap the little kids are watching and trying to be when they grow up. that's where it bothers me. just go to youtube and type in therian and search just today or the week, today im sure you will see the little girl she and her older sister upload basically daily, its fucked up, after the first post I did with her older sister in where she talks about how her sister is now theran to and how her parents were telling she to stop telling her littler sister that stuff because she should be busy being a kid and not worring about what animal she sexually identifiys as. I cant even watch their vids like this vid, when I think about it to much it is no longer funny and just sad.
IDK sry bout the rant, just woke up and its like I didn't sleep in a way cause im still on this crazy chick as a subject.
xD
thanks for the comment.
interesting. yea. when i was in high school some kids were scratching words into their arm all gothed out in the mid 90's. They all turned out ok, or at least ones i have on fb. lol
How do you find these people?
just word of mouth or type some key words that are trending on tumblr and boom they are everywhere. there are so many I cant even keep up with what comes out in one day. I actually have to limit what im searching or I could spend years listening to stupid dribble that comes out in one month.
xD
I enjoy your posts and topics, but I would be careful where someone is sick. After reading your comments, I didn't even listen to her. I say leave her be.
would it be wrong to say cutting herself is stupid?
lol, well it is correct, but I don't think that is how you help someone who cuts, and why give her attention for it? It is a form of control, and if you acknowledge it, then it is working.
I think all of the stuff she is saying is about getting attention. They are all crazy imo but she said all the same things as the others just that later she said she cuts and is suicidal, but in a happy bragging type of way. So now I have to find an adult saying crazy shit but not sucidial/cutting crazy. gets harder and harder. If its wrong to make fun of her for the madness she is saying there should be a way to warn people she is crazy because people watch this crap and believe it as facts like she says they are. xD
well back huntng through cringe to find some gold.
Thank you for talking me out of doing it. could have been a big mistake. I don't need some ones life on my mind.
8D
That's why I tell you that the best thing is to let them speak, the truth will come out. Sometimes when people make fun of others it can make them feel like they are being attacked and in response they defend themselves, it's a reflex. If you want them to get better don't make fun of them. I know it's hard, I have a hard time with the same thing. I also know that humor can help in certain circumstances to lighten things up, but most of the time the person just feels attacked which is counterproductive.
Would it be wrong to leave a comment that says "cutting yourself is stupid"?
Obviously is not stupid to her because she's doing it if you feel like telling her not to, or she is proposing it. (didn't watch the video, have watched too many of those trying to understand them)
Questions work better in my experience, questions that answer themselves. Something like "Some people have reported getting a temporary relief when they cut themselves, enphasis on temporary. Wouldn't you prefer to find something that makes you feel better in the long run and is easier on your body?"
I know it may feel like you are going out of your way for her, but you already are if you are willing to leave a comment and are even debating it on Steemit. You want her to be better. If you are going to try to help her, why not make the effort worth and try a little harder? (see? I did it again)
Hopefully she is smart enough to understand that calling something she identifies with or does stupid does not equate to her whole being called stupid, but you already stated the problem with assuming.
im not saying she is actually stoopid like part of her brain isn't working but like the noise that is coming out of her mouth is just that. I do wish she was better but infecting little kids with these ideas as facts is horrible. If she hadent said she was sucidial I would be leaving a comment and making th vid. I don't like the idea of making someone susicidal.
usually I tell people to do it when they talk about killing them selfs. But that's a whole nother story I would rather not get into tonight.
:P
I'm struggling with how to say this nicely. Skeptic, you strike me as a bit immature. When it comes to somebody with mental illness it should be obvious you shouldn't make a personal attack against them. No matter how bomb you think that video might be.
There are real effects from cyber-bullying so I encourage you to follow the good sense you have and not attack this already struggling individual.
Have a field day making fun of the concepts of vamp-kin, cat-kin, pump-kin whatever. Just don't make it personal please. Calling people stupid individually is bullying. You're not a bully are you?
you are encouraging people to be weak. this harms them more than verbal "bullying"
supporting and enabling destructive behaviours does not help anyone, this is spreading all over and it is becoming wrong to make fun of people for saying stupid retarded shit. Everyone is crazy, some people are just better at hiding it then others. I have no problem that you think im immature but trying to attack my charcter to null what I say des not work. She made the video not me, to laugh at it is not wrong. she thinks she is immortal but then says she is super susicidal same sentence. someone needs to tell them the truth, the reason they are like this is because everyone has been to scared to tell them they are retarded.
Fuck this idea of cyber bullying, everything is cyber bullying, cyber violence, harassment, abuse, blah blah blah its all fucking retarded. calling stuff stupid or retarded is not bullying, I have the right to strongly disagree with people telling me they can be part vampire if they want when they cant. this idea of bullying when pointing out where someone is wrong is the reason shit like this goes on. people are to worried about fweeling they forget logic, facts and reason. I will use any words I want too. If i want to call her a retard or stopid or a fucking can of soda I will and you or anyone else does not have the right to try to tell me how to talk or how to think.
I will have fun making fun of people that are stupid when they say completely stupid shit and people believe it. Its not just the kins, its all his make believe crap I go after. If you look back on my other posts I talk about a lot of bullshit that is getting pushed.
So call me whatever you like, bully, immature whatever I don't care I go on and do what I do. So good job trying to white night for someone, you failed. if anything you make me want to make a vid on it more now, but I wont because I don't want to not because you come up in here acting like your above all of this.
Shit do I now claim that what you are saying to me is bullying and harassment and abuse and all that other stuff because your saying stuff I disagree with and might not like?
no because im not a stupid little bitch. I listen to what you have to say, take it in and use it to grow from as another experience in life.
They need to harden the fuck up sometimes or life is going to kill them. imo atleast.
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Do you really want to help her or do you want to have a good laugh at her expense? A good laugh could end her if she's truly suicidal. Remember that.
At your core you seem to know there are better ways to reach and educate people. That's probably why you're asking if you should call her stupid. That's not going to open her eyes. It'll make her hostile to anything constructive you could say to her. Look how you reacted to me saying your maturity is lacking. It doesn't build bridges or help somebody to see an alternative forward.
Do you mean what you say about taking it in and growing? I'm not telling you what to do here. You can do whatever you want but you did pose a question to the community for advice. Advice given now I'm done.
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+%0A%0Ayes I ment what I said about taking in info and growing. The way you gave your %22advice%22 might have been the reason it was responded to the way it was. besides like I said I was just asking if people thought I should or shouldn't do it. obviously I didn't think I should do it or I would have never asked. and none of this was about saving the girl, she is way gone and lost. that's everyone elses thing trying to white night for a hick that thinks she is part vampire and cat and imortal ect.
the fuck this shit again?
fuck steemit its like once a week you do this shit.
I think your response was very reasoned and mature. You're easily triggered are you not?
I would like to add that I too stand for truth. Scientific skepticism is something I hold dear. But mental illness isn't something you talk somebody out of by logic. I spoke to you because you seem like you can be reached.
I could be wrong.
Might I remind you you asked for feedback. Don't request potential criticism when you're so thin skinned. Seriously hope you get yourself checked out. Look up the meaning of Thou doth protest too much.
They say whatever they want
You say whatever you wat
They say whatever they want about you saying whatever you want
Then you say whatever you want about they saying whatever they want about you saying what you want...
That feeling that you have, the feeling of someone else trying to control you, that's probably what they are feeling. The person up there was calling you immature as much as you were calling the chick stupid, none of you are, you are naming a behavior, not its performer.
Don't take it personally, you are right in that this is a harsh world and compassion can sometimes be in making someone aware of this.
its still not true, thinking your part vampire and cat is just fake. telling people it is true and fact is wrong. little kids are doing this crap because they listen to people like this and believe this dribble.
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since you're asking for an opinion, I'd say DON'T make fun of her.
Realizing that there is a mass psyop by the media and academia against being human or American or white, it is no wonder that so many millennials are so fucked up.
If you were the greatest headshrinker in the world, I doubt you could help her. You definitely have the possibility of making her mental state worse. Hopefully she'll get a reality clue bat w/o it hurting her too much.
I don't see her trying to silence other people like the Fainting Couch Cows (aka sjw), so spend your effort on the people that deserve it.
yeah, I swear I thought I hit gold the first 5 min or so.
She has some muslim in her comment saying he can help her with allah and a bunch of stuff. she says she is looking for something I hope she doesn't fall for the islam thing, she would be perfect for the radicals to program. she thinks she is immortal and is suicidal, sounds like perfect jihad person.
scary.
xD
thats the perfect IN into recruiting any person with no sense of self-worth...
join US and you'll be a better person instantly
good perpective
Im serious though, if you look in the comment of her video that is what someone is trying to do. whoever it is is trying to convert her to islam.
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i believe you completely. thats what cults do...look for hurting losers and promising them WINNING...simply by allowing themselves to be consumed by the borg
hope you dont think I was mocking you
No I didn't think that. it just makes my mind spin. the more I think about it.
lol
my initial reaction is, let the fire come. roast her, before she infects someone else. stupidkin are delusional, and soon there will be special rights for them, just like the people who are
bathroomgendersexuals.
she is encouraging other mentally ill people to the extent that they may hurt themselves or others.
i don't think that humiliating this one would dissuade her.
if we don't exercise our freedom of speech, soon the perception of verbal negativity by others will constitute a capital crime by the speaker.
that being said, i wouldn't get myself in trouble over such a
worthless moron, and if you leave her alone, she will inevitably
destroy herself.
Well said.
did you watch the video? I swear I thought I found the greatest thing on the planet at first.
This is whatc coming in a couple years and normal once these kids that think this shit grow up a little and the kids getting raised as it will bee teens, then oh shit your not calling me my my correct kin pronoun and segration by make believe animal type ect.
damn it makes me think of the song dogma by kmfdm
"we use to hate people, now we just make fun of them. its more effective that way."
i watched the whole horrifying thing. this one seems more self aware than most. i hope she gets some help. it reminds me of when i was 6 years old and pretended to be comic book characters, but i was 6.
i see some berating you for making fun, but shaming works. it is more needful now than ever in my life.
i, personally, applaud you for your willingness to put up with the resistance you encounter.
kmfdm was almost too far ahead of their time.
They were, that's the shit I was listening to when I was growing up. lol
Im not gona say anything to her its like another one I came across a couple days ago, its just sad not even funny.
Just means I have to find a new one, lol not hard once I start searching.
xD
so, for a while i've been watching this series about the deliberate degradation of society. the current episode is about "the who". i never gave two craps about them, but looking back, it's like seeing all of the stepping stones that led to here. this therian crap is just another recent step. check it out if you want.
yeah I opened it in a new tab so I can check it out today.
xD
sounds good.
skeptic's shadow self is an emotive fantasist.
so my advice is to look into why you are so compelled to make fun of this kinda stuff more than any other non-realistic belief.