I reckon the situation is dire, and while you note Xi Jinping has nothing to lose, then he has nothing to gain either. The same is true for HK. If they can't gain independence from China, they have nothing to lose.
Yes I think that is the primary mindset of the movement for sure. And they still MIGHT gain, for example if they need a safe haven to escape from, the US, Taiwan, Singapore etc may possibly provide, things like this. But hope for what it is to be Hong Kong is... yeah, most likely over
Regarding your comments on Xinjiang and the replacement of images of Holy Figures with images of Xi and Mao, I never had a hard time believing it but living here in the Jing, I never saw it first-hand. Your account brings a sigh, but I can't say I'm surprised.
As for your thoughts on the impossibility of Hong Kong's success... can I be cynical?
I agree, but the world needs to back them in that losing fight anyway. Maybe Hong Kong can be the martyr the rest of the world needs in order to finally get the gumption to tell China to kick rocks. I've got dozens of entries on nations in China's neighborhood who have finally gotten a clue in that regard, but the West still tries to pretend "it's a phase... China will come around eventually."
Maybe seeing Hong Kong get crushed will shock the world enough for them to realize what kind of a monster China has been since Qin Shihuang.
I hate to be so Macchiavellian about it, but that's the way I see it.
Certainly, I do not suggest they stop what they're doing. If the entirety of Mainland China won't - whether they want to or are able to - then someone has to. I just hoped for some centralization of the force that leads to dialogue but, wishful thinking I suppose.
China has been in the headlights a lot recently, with exposure to its activities coming all at once; the timing couldn't be better for the history books, and this will certainly be a nasty stain in history nobody will forget.
Oh, they won't forget it. They'll spin it as another "national humiliation" brought on by "Western Imperialism" and enshrine it into their history books as one more grudge against the world beyond their borders. At the risk of spamming plugs, I've written before about their "creative history," from their false claim about their age to the way they forget America has been propping them up for more than a century.
I took the liberty of copying it into a Word Document before it came down, but I can promise you I will only quote it anonymously until you're out of China (as I finally am). I know full-well how it feels to walk around looking over your shoulder in that country. It's why I never attached my name or face to my Steemit account until I was out for good.
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I reckon the situation is dire, and while you note Xi Jinping has nothing to lose, then he has nothing to gain either. The same is true for HK. If they can't gain independence from China, they have nothing to lose.
I'd be in the streets.
Thanks!
Yes I think that is the primary mindset of the movement for sure. And they still MIGHT gain, for example if they need a safe haven to escape from, the US, Taiwan, Singapore etc may possibly provide, things like this. But hope for what it is to be Hong Kong is... yeah, most likely over
Regarding your comments on Xinjiang and the replacement of images of Holy Figures with images of Xi and Mao, I never had a hard time believing it but living here in the Jing, I never saw it first-hand. Your account brings a sigh, but I can't say I'm surprised.
As for your thoughts on the impossibility of Hong Kong's success... can I be cynical?
I agree, but the world needs to back them in that losing fight anyway. Maybe Hong Kong can be the martyr the rest of the world needs in order to finally get the gumption to tell China to kick rocks. I've got dozens of entries on nations in China's neighborhood who have finally gotten a clue in that regard, but the West still tries to pretend "it's a phase... China will come around eventually."
Maybe seeing Hong Kong get crushed will shock the world enough for them to realize what kind of a monster China has been since Qin Shihuang.
I hate to be so Macchiavellian about it, but that's the way I see it.
Certainly, I do not suggest they stop what they're doing. If the entirety of Mainland China won't - whether they want to or are able to - then someone has to. I just hoped for some centralization of the force that leads to dialogue but, wishful thinking I suppose.
China has been in the headlights a lot recently, with exposure to its activities coming all at once; the timing couldn't be better for the history books, and this will certainly be a nasty stain in history nobody will forget.
Except those in Mainland China...
Oh, they won't forget it. They'll spin it as another "national humiliation" brought on by "Western Imperialism" and enshrine it into their history books as one more grudge against the world beyond their borders. At the risk of spamming plugs, I've written before about their "creative history," from their false claim about their age to the way they forget America has been propping them up for more than a century.
Lol I wrote about their false claim to age once on here too, ages ago. I'll check 'em out tomorrow!
I took the liberty of copying it into a Word Document before it came down, but I can promise you I will only quote it anonymously until you're out of China (as I finally am). I know full-well how it feels to walk around looking over your shoulder in that country. It's why I never attached my name or face to my Steemit account until I was out for good.