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RE: Are Flat-Earthers Serious?

in #flatearth7 years ago (edited)

Claims without proof ARE religion. That's why I said that you are religious. And you just admitted it. You are not offering scientific proofs, you are offering a BELIEF SYSTEM based on opinions, ignoring facts and reality, not answering questions necessary to come to a correct conclusion because, if you did, you'd have to admit you were incorrect, and calling things 'facts' that are not.

Sure, history is twisted, sure, we've been lied to a lot, sure, the elite define academic curriculummm. and the earth is still provably a sphere. YOu are prove it yourself in hundreds of different ways, both logically and empirically, and you can DISPROVE flat earth similarly in hundreds of ways.

For instance, you say there is no curvature. Well, if you say you are a SCIENTIST and want to know the truth, have you ever actually gone out with a geodetic surveyor and ACTUALLY SEE AND MEAUSURE the curvature of the earth with prescision instruments used for a hundred years that were developed for that purpose? Did you grill him on the science and the techniques and the math and look through his theodolite and question the measurements with him?

NOpe. Because that would rebut your contention. And all you want to do is to confirm your bias.

Heck, you could add the theodolite APP on your phone, go look at the horizon on a level plane on the bottom floor of a tall building with an unobstructed view of the horizon, then go to the top floor of the building, measure again, and you will have SEEN and MEASURED the horizon dip!

Have you done that? Of course you have not. Because you are more interested in conflating topics and confirming your bias than actual truth.

I am an anarchist. I fought the corrupt government in court, I even quit a lucrative career because I was in the medical lies industry. Fortunately, I can distinguish between topics, and research for myself that some things are lies and others are not and take each claim individually on it's own merits.

And the earth is DEFINITELY NOT FLAT.

You do not seem to be able to distinguish between different claims. To say that the government lies, so EVERYTHING they do and say is a lie is utterly ridiculous and fallacious. For example, most of the elite speak English and use English in schools. Does this mean that English is a satanic language and we should be using smoke signals instead... since they stamped out the Indians? Didnt' they stamp out the Indians and use English because SMOKE SIGNALS are the key communication to true enlightenment?

That is the kind of ridiculous conclusion you are making. You say they lie about EVERYTHING, then come to ridiculous conclusions like 'they are hiding a flat earth from us!!!!!"

It's such a ridiculous fallacious conclusion that I cannot believe people make it.

Go out and work with a geodetic surveyor for a day. Go use the theodolite app on a tall building and watch the horizon dip. Then get back to me and say that 'no one has ever seen or measured curvature'. it's a blatant lie based on sheer and utter ignorance of what ACTUAL people are doing and measuring in real life and that they have done so for a hundred years. The technology to measure horizon dip is literally in your pocket. Yet, I will wager that you will NOT check for yourself. Because you risk losing your religious belief, you risk looking like a fool after telling everyone the earth is flat then being wrong about it and having to recant.

So, you will not do these things.

I don't care what people believe. People believe all sorts of crazy things. But when these same people get on social media and claim these crazy things are SCIENTIFIC, when they are not, well, that's when I have a problem with it.

Your belief is unscientific and irrational. Stop trying to portray it as if it IS scientific by repeating nonsense unscientific YouTubers say that neither you nor they have any understanding of.

Like gravity. YOu simply refuse to say why things fall TOWARDS the earth and not AWAY from the earth. That's because you have no understanding of WHY they do. YOu just DENY gravity because YOuTube says you should, but you cannot explain the phenomenon that gravity causes.. like falling TOWARDS earth instead of towards the firmament, and that climbing hills is hard, not easy, even though climbing should be EASIER since you are going from a more dense area to a less dense area.

You can't answer these things, because you have no idea what you are talking about. But claim you do.

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