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RE: Why Investing in YOUR Steem Power matters! Especially with ShadowBot!

in #steemit7 years ago

hello i had joined shadowbot and left again i noticed a few problems still exist from when i was a member in December

  1. spam posters are still rewarded iv seen one user with 7 accounts logon every few days and make 20-40 posts each account probably why so many low lose out.

  2. Since introduction of pool priority users delegating away SP are still shown as having the same and still receiving same rewards from pool priority and having FVL even though SP is very little thus giving dust votes to all.

  3. I think is a need to prioritize voting for powered up posts as most users will always withdraw SBD especially so if price continues to rise also as Steem price rises amount created through posts diminishes also.

  4. Why hasn't blacklisted been updated in weeks and when are honey pots due?

  5. when are honeypots due

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hmmmm.. @shadowbot, I can confirm there is some kind of bug in delegation calculating for total SP of a shadowcaster. I have delegated -750SP to various people, then also received about +1000SP delegated to me, adding both +/- to my current 1850SP I have effectively about 2100SP, but the caster page/list shows I have 2850SP so I am almost positive the -750SP is not factored in, at least in display. It is good my recieved delegations are accounted for, but if only one side of the coin is noticed by the system I could imagine a few ways that could be exploited, even just using 2 accounts delegating to each other could double the SP the system sees so it might be something to fix when you have the chance.

If anyone else reading is thinking to try that example, please don't. I can promise it would work, but not that it turns out well.

@isacoin, I think the idea to prioritize 100% powered up posts is a suicide mission. 100% powered up post are only effective if the SBD price reaches $1usd or below, anything higher and you are losing money from using that option scaled directly to how far above $1usd SBD is valued. If the incentive is there for cutting your reward down to 1/4th of what you would have got, what is the ideal scenario exactly? That everyone in the pool complies with it, but gets 1/4th their normal rewards in the process? The people that want to power up will get 1/4th rewards and the people that want to cash out get less priority? That just means everyone gets less, so even if that rule was added the ideal scenario is nobody follows the rule unless SBD drops in price by 80% or more. Your head is in the right place, but there are better ways to incentivise powering up that align the interests of the pool and author rather than conflicting them. The pool as a single unit using 100% power up option would be a significantly impared growth pattern even compared to a scenario where half the shadowcasters are cashing out just because the difference in payout value is so extreme. Anyone you see in 100% power up right now either has some idealogical reasoning about SBD inflation, thinks more people will upvote their post if it is 100% power up, or has no idea what they are doing, lol.

i see but your power is at 21% you lose a lot of value renting delegation when low

i was talking about users who delegated away having little sp and voting power and still get votes as if had all is

to prioritize powering up would only be short term as is a need for sp now because with the price os steem rising will be harder to generate through votes and would depend solely on good faith of users powering up and from what ive seen doesnt happen

there is 716 accounts under 30 sp and doesn't look like have changed much in sp even though earnings have been increasing

i think people would be more likely to vote a powered up post as this shows direct support of platform even at the lose of the sbd and with so little users powering up posts would stand out from the search's feeds which is difficult normally

I cant answer all your questions but i know that every shadow caster only gets upvoted by each member once every 24 hours, which means if they post 20-40 posts each day, only 7 of them will be rewarded, and after 7 days their other posts will not be applicable for rewards.

this is not and never was true look at jonbit was getting 12 votes a member a week

@isacoin I was hoping to ask you a question.

Will I lose my shadow rank if I want to pause being in the Shadow Pool for a Day or two.

I want to get my power back to 100

I think if someone leaves they lose rank once they rejoin, but the way voting works if you are below 100% it will allow you to recharge still because it will vote every 5 hours or so instead of every 2. This means your contribution to the pool is less and rank increases a bit slower this way, but it is there to allow recharging. The only caveat is it will take longer to recharge than normal.

I lost my rank.

Sob sob I got a bit impatient and left. Joined again I was only a rank 3 so I will get it back in no time.

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