Explore Tipping on Steem
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8 years ago in #tipping by good-karma (76)
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I would like to see a bot that not only allows steem tipping but also BitShares assets tipping. That would be awsome.
There was the Sharebits bot from @officialfuzzy in the old BitShares forum. It was a lot of fun and it was taking off. We add all kind of fun currencies like "fistbump", "highfive", ... After some issues, the bot went down.
Now Fuzzy is rebuilding it. Will Steem be as one the first platform where Sharebits 2.0 will run ?
What was the issue? Here on Steem it makes sense to build it because it is social platform, but I would love to see sharebits or multi currency support as well.
Some issues with the code, it had to be rewritten. It's mostly done right now. We'll have news from Fuzzy soon. I guess that it would be in the interest of the project to start with Steemit.
We are rebuilding it. I am on it...
But ironically i think this is nice too. And even for different reasons :)
Nice. @steemitqa and myself have a somewhat similar project on the go as well to help with user tipping. Glad to see more people looking into this sort of thing as well. :)
Yes, I saw @tippy :)
what was the plan or rather how it would work?
The model we are using is quite different from your from what I am reading.
Going to run ours similar to the old tip bots on reddit. Was building him in python but decided to switch over to node.js.
I'm not sure how long out @tippy is going to take to get 100% operational! Glad to see someone else has been thinking of creating their own tipping shortcut services. :)
I am not familiar with tip bots on reddit though I suspect it is not much different. Hope you guys finish up tippy, let me know if you need a hand with testing ;)
Thanks for extending the offer for testing sir..!
Have a good one. :)
I have seen what you will do for Steemit in seven months from now. You have my gratitude, @klye. Your role in bringing Steemit to the mainstream shall not be overlooked.
Yes, @good-karma good to see you checking this out :)
I really think a tipping option should be implemented, it's a feature that would respond to many people's wishes.
It would be great if you guys could work together over it instead of dividing your efforts into separate projects. Even if competition sometimes is beneficial to the end user.
I would certainly try it out, in whichever form it comes out, and would definitely love to see this implemented at the blockchain level.
PS. Isn't there any way you guys could actually propose it as a change on the blockchain? Maybe the project could get funded from the Marketing Crowdsource thing or something...
There is a feature request: https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/690
I know there is a feature request on GitHub. You mentioned it earlier. What I was saying is maybe the efforts could go into suggesting the blockchain code change directly instead of workarounds. That might be more beneficial in the end. A feature request is passing the ball to Steemit Inc. who will prioritize dev on that when there is time for them.
It would be great to have blockchain level support and implementation, but I'm not sure about complexity of this...
Maybe someone could explain to me why any change would need to be made at the blockchain level for this. Isn't it just a transfer by a different name? Seems like a front-end Steemit.com feature to me.
Not that I don't support third part dev of tipping bots, which would be fun while steemit has their dev hands full. And possibly beyond.
The idea is to have easy tipping without needing to fill form, login with active key and get name etc. What this would solve is to give you ability tip anyone with single line of comment. Right now transfer require active key and not everyone uses site with their main password for security reasons.
@good-karma has a project that seems to be different enough from mine to be classified a different objective I think. @tippy will seldom is ever create posts by itself..! Never been a huge fan of the automated posting thing but it is what it is. :)
It's a great idea @good-karma. Yep. people want to tip a post more than a like. So we could build something like this for all our products, i will support the idea and participe. Yep, i will tip this! If u need any help for testing the bot, i can help.
Thanks @pnc for your input and offer, sure once it is implemented I will notify 😉
Why not just transfer instead of tipping?
Transfer require extra steps and your active private key. This method is faster and easy, you would have separate balance and easily tip anyone
in the times of reward pool broke and possibly be broken in future on other hardforks where people dont do math before doing changes..
tipping bot might be really needed! i like the idea
Indeed, thanks for input! How often would you use it?
depends how often you make good posts for me to read :))
testing new feature!
Hi! You can look on special donation bot called dobrobot. It works for more than a week in Golos network. It differs a little in its mechanics to regular bots (as in Reddit) because it do autotips each time you cast a vote for somebody. More than 15 people are using this bot right now in Golos, which is shown on special statistics page with personal balances.
Disclaimer: I'm not a developer of dobrobot. @ropox is. I'm just an author of the idea.
That's great to know @everythink! Will check it out ;)
I mean personally I feel it's a bit redundant because we can already just go to our wallet and transfer funds with a message, which I have done a few times when I felt compelled. The better question is why a future fork doesn't implement it as a core feature that could then be built off of from my viewpoint.
Yes, Steem could have support on blockchain level as mentioned in post, there is github issue/feature request for that. But this is something we can do now and see if it works out without making any changes to blockchain. If it is widely used, then it could very well be implemented.
I'm not saying this to shit on your idea, but honestly it gets old seeing bots in the top 10 payouts on an almost daily basis. It's not that I don't see the value in these bots or find them useful, but if you start looking at the percentage of payouts and think about the fact that it is perpetually another percentage of the payouts gone away from authors/curators every single day, I'd rather see bots getting made obsolete by fixing the problems from a development standpoint.
I feel like, we are talking about two different things. You are talking about bots getting payouts by posting, which I think is separate subject... Here bot doesn't get payout, rather helps someone to tip someone else. All happening with human interaction. Bot handles only transfering part.
Yep, human interaction is very important. We don't have to lose it.
Okay, let me not get hasty and make an assumption here. To be clear you are saying this bot won't be making a daily or bi-daily post reporting who tipped what and getting up voted 500+ times off of these posts?
No, that's not objective of this bot! Objective is to help you tipping to someone else.
I can get behind charging a small fee for that then, but I was just feeling a pulsing vein in my forehead at the thought of bots making that kind of money and then considering charging a fee per use on top of that.
Thanks for input... I am not convinced that fee should be there if we want this to scale.
I hope you understand my concern here, because all of these bots making 30-50 dollar a day posts is absurd and I'll show you why I feel that way. A bot making one $30 dollar a day post is making roughly 11,000 USD worth of steem per year. I'm going to use $30 as the baseline for this argument because they fluctuate anywhere between 25-45 on a pretty much daily basis. Every bot that gets added and is a relatively useful bot that "reports it's functions" is most likely going to end up like the rest of them doing exactly this. 10 bots running is over 100,000 USD pulled from authors and curators per year. The thing that pisses me off is that it's perpetually paying for the life of the platform bots to solve issues that need to be solved before leaving beta. So every time I see someone even mention making a bot I'm going to feel compelled to point out these practices.
I think it's a good idea. It would be great if users could tip by just using an emoji, like a heart or something instead of #tipping . I remember on reddit when there was this change tip bot everywhere it was a bit annoying, something more discreet would be better imo.
Sure emoji or any indicator would work! 😉
What shorter word would you suggest?
Emoji might not be available on some devices and might be confusing to many unless something like this.
<3 1 steemYes, the Busy tip button looks rather nice I think
eSteem can also have that and forward you to transfer page with filled fields, but every UI with different layout kind of redundant, having universal way would help not only to secure yourself from ever needing to use active key but also ease of use... When you like post or comment you would just need to reply with couple keywords.
Oh this is a very cute idea. I like this a lot! I don't know a ton about multisig, but maybe it would allow the bot to be operated distributedly.
Great :)
I think, active permission can have multiple accounts that would potentially mean multiple people can safeguard the funds. If community desires so, bot can add steemit or some other account to its active permission...
How often would you use it? :)