Solution to Improve Post Promotion System

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

It is not news that promoted feature on Steemit doesn't work as it was intended to work. The way it currently works is people send SBD to @null with their post link in the memo. Their post will appear under promoted and ranked based on the amount of SBD they have sent. That money gets burnt and decreases the supply of SBD.

The problem is this feature is not used by many and not used often enough. The main reason for that is promoted posts don't really get promoted and people rarely visit promoted section. There is simply no incentive to promote or to consume promoted content.

@liberosist recently wrote a post with a couple of interesting suggestions to improve the promotion system. I absolutely agree with him when he says:

Currently, the promoted posts are stuck in the 'promoted', an isolated section few visit. Most people spend their time in their preferred tags.

Two suggestions he gives to solve the issue are:

  1. The promotion value boosts posts up the Trending pages.
  2. Promote with Steem.

I don't agree with the first suggestions. In my opinion, adding some of the promoted posts to either sitewide or category based trending would be like forcing the promoted content for consumption. I think promoted content should be consumed voluntarily.

The second suggestion is brilliant. People should be able to promote with either Steem or SBD, whichever they think benefits them most. That way both Steem and SBD can be burnt.

A few weeks ago, @blocktrades posted a proposition for a blockchain-level change regarding the distribution of author/curator rewards and "30-minute rule". This proposal attracted a lot of attention. Three days ago @steemitblog announced that "30-minute rule" will be decreased to 15 minutes with the upcoming hardfork 20. During that discussion, I brought up an idea of incentivizing authors and curators to use the promoted feature more.

Being inspired by these two posts and authors, I would like to elaborate more on my suggestions to improve promoted feature and make it work for everybody.

@ned had this idea/solution a long time ago. He expressed that during an interview at Steemfest 2016. You can watch the video here.

He says the following at 1:09 minutes into the video:

For the first time you can bootstrap a currency now with Steem around people's attention. So people are paying their attention to the website, to steemit.com or to another website based on Steem. And then those people can say to people who want their attention: advertisers or people who want to promote posts - "You can only get your content into my feed if you pay me".

What do I propose?

I propose to incentivizing the use of the promote feature for both content creators and content consumers. This can be achieved by splitting the Steem/SBD sent to @null into two. One portion gets added towards the curation rewards for that particular post, second portion gest burnt. Initially, this can be set as 50/50 split.

For example, I have a post that has a pending payout of 10 SBD. Approximately 7.5 as authors reward, and 2.5 as curators reward. Now I send 10 SBD to @null, 5 SBD will be burned and the other 5 SBD will be added to the curation reward pool increasing it to 7.5.

This will incentivize people to visit the promoted section more often, pay attention to promoted posts, and follow authors who promote their posts. This will also increase the use of the promoted feature by authors and advertisers. More and more authors will use the feature as they see the results of the promotion. It is even possible that people will compete with the frequency and amounts they use the feature with.

The percentage of the split can be adjusted as need and can become an economic instrument to make adjustments to inflation, supply and demand, etc. For example, it can start off as 30 burn / 70 curation pool, and gradually change to 70 burn / 30 curation pool. Obviously, it would need discussions and consensus among witnesses as to what would be best for Steem economy.

Ability to use both Steem or SBD to promote as @liberosist suggested is absolutely necessary.

Who will this proposal benefit?

Short answer, everybody.

  1. Authors will use this feature more often now because they know people are incentivized to pay attention to promoted posts. They are paying for attention. Once they get the attention, it is the quality of the content what will drive the upvotes and possibly push their posts to trending. Promoted will not guarantee upvotes. Often times what quality content creators seek is attention.

  2. Curators will be visiting promoted feature more often. This is a great opportunity for lower stake/sp holders to increase their curation rewards. At the same time, higher stake/sp holders wouldn't mind higher curation rewards either. Once content consumers start paying attention to promoted section, they will more likely be upvoting quality content they see there. Why wouldn't they? Most importantly though, all of this is done voluntarily. People are not forced to consume promoted posts and ads. They do so by their own choice.

  3. Mega-whales/whale/orcas/dolphins will see their investments increase in value. Since more people are burning both Steem and SBD, supply goes down, and when supply goes down prices go up. That simple.

  4. Advertisers. Now that there is a working system for advertising, as Steem grows this may attract more companies to buy into Steem. One thing to note is these advertisers will be cool advertisers and will be welcome, because they will be advertising in a non-intrusive manner. This I think can become an innovative approach to advertising online in general. I refer you back to what Ned said last year. "You can only get your content into my feed if you pay me".

  5. Developers. Developers of other Steem based apps can develop their own ways of features to promote. Doing so, they can take a percentage of the money used for promotion. Currently, they take various percentages from authors' rewards to fund their projects/operations. If a portion of the money paid by promoters and advertisers on their apps goes to developers they will not need to cut into the author rewards. At the very least the can decrease the percentages they take. Which in return may drastically increase their user base.

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I agree @geekgirl, this or a better variant of this needs to be implemented
to have a chance of competing with upvote bots

Today all upvote bots mostly return 100% of investment to the bidder to get some publicity/trending going for a post

Curators today share in 25% for upvote botes and the OP gets 100% back.

At the very least promote needs to give back >50% to the visitors of the post (curators & viewers), say destroy 25% of (Steem&SBD), and give 75% (Steem&SBD) of the total promote back to the curators and who know maybe even split the 75% between - 50% curators and 25% replies via a nested weighted increase payout to the replies below

A ratio promotion algorithm (dynamic algo that gives more to curators as the promote bid goes higher) in the Steem blockchain will really get things pumping and take away business from only the big Steem owners mining Steem with bots (Sharks, Whales, & Orcas) who don't give or add content value and back to the ecosystem and move the funds to the Dolphins, Minnows, and new Dust-Minnows who keeps things growing, busy, and curating: The Real Live-Blood of Steem!

Are you listening @ned & @sneak??

Even if people end up using bots less, burning of STEEM/SBD will significantly increase, and all of the high stake holders will benefit big deal with increase in value of their holdings. This didn't attract much attention. We just need to convince somebody with influence to bring up this kind of discussion, then it might get some attention.

Insightful and yet spoken so succinctly, yes I can see the amazing potential if we did a burning-man to scorch Steem and SBD to increase scarcity!



Steemit's Version of Burning Man's in SteemFest 2020/2019/2018
source: wordpress

Are you

listening

@ned & @sneak??

Hey @geekgirl Interested to learn more about how your grow your Steemit account in this short period of time.

Is there any way for us to communicate because Steemit doesn't seem to have a way for a longer conversation?

I am not sure if I would be best person to help. You can dm me in steemit.chat.

I think this is a reasonable recommendation. I don't see a reason why this shouldn't be implemented if basically everyone wins . You should know though that people gonna try to find a way to abuse that because you know people can be weird sometimes. I have no idea how that could be abused at this point and I hope people won't even try that if it ever gets implemented.

Keep up the good work with the awesome posts geekgirl.

I think this is an interesting proposal worth checking. But it’s not better to use voting bots?

I have seen a LOT of users using bots and recommending them. I still haven’t use them since I am new but I am trying to learn

What do you think about bots? Are they better than the promotion option?

I personally don't use vote bots. I don't feel like buying votes, although I have nothing against them. Half of the people who buy votes do so for purposes of exposing their post. That only proves there is a need for functioning promotion system.

With vote buying, vote sellers are the ones who profit. With functioning promotion system everybody can profit. I am sure there would still be demand for vote buying. But I think these are two separate things.

There are also some people who philosophically disagree with vote buying and they usually will not upvote posts that have bought votes.

I don't know how profitable buying votes would be. I would ask someone who uses them. They probably have the calculations. If you are new, I would suggest focusing on quality of your content and try to get votes naturally based on merits. It might be tough, but in a long run will more beneficial and profitable.

Nothing wrong with experimenting though.

Amen. Thanks for a great post @geekgirl the promoted tab needs some working on and I think you have some really valuable points. Do you think anyone should be able to promote anyone elses post as currently is the case too?

Yea I think anybody can promote any post. But mainly of course people would promote their own content.

Good suggestions. I agree about this, not that it matters with my low SP, but in my humble view these are well thought out good suggestions, with relatively easy implementation and benefits to all user segments.

It would create new avenue of increasing SP for lower SP members, they would earn more in curators rewards with their upvotes on promoted content.

You are definitely on to something. What about something like a steam Energy Drink where the boost is very high, but very temporary, say maybe 6, 12 hours, 24 hours, then the post falls back to a more default newer post status of that given poster?

I love the nature of the "opt in" to see promoted posts. It's always hard to predict how an idea like this could evolve, because once it gets going there is no telling what the potential outcomes could be. Interesting ideas have a way of growing arms and legs..! Imagine what could occur when people begin tokenising access to their feeds with SMT's. Kinda gets the cogs working when you realise that one of the most interesting things about the STEEM blockchain, and the Steemit platform is the nature of the way it's evolution is occuring.

Fantastic idea, really cool.

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