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RE: On Friendship And Community

in #philosophy6 years ago (edited)

Hm, from my own experience, introverts will usually keep to the circle they've managed to form am attachment to, while extroverts can form new bonds and shift focus much more easily. Although when breaking with an old circle extroverts are much more likely to check back in from time to time -- in this respect introverts may end up being stuffed by their often excessive sense of shame over abandonment of others.

Just a personal observation :)

Whatever ends up happening, as long as we've made a positive contribution to each others experiences, however minute, it's all right to feel satisfied. People get attached because of their own emotional needs and that's not a bad thing, but we should not prevent someone from moving on when they want to -- it will depress them and reflect on your relationship in an even worse way.

P.S. You know, about that third picture -- while I would normally go for hight contrast with BW, that foggy atmosphere warrants a bit more lighting, perhaps?

43724559684_b7d89c316a_b_.jpg edited, original by @markkujantunen

It may just be an issue with the settings on my monitor though, I've not calibrated it for photo editing :/

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You may be right. That version has a bit more depth to it while it retains the dark quality. On the other hand, neither of the edges of the road are in either of the corners of the picture. That's an error in composition. The dimmer version obscures that fact.

Hm, from my own experience, introverts will usually keep to the circle they've managed to form am attachment to, while extroverts can form new bonds and shift focus much more easily. Although when breaking with an old circle extroverts are much more likely to check back in from time to time -- in this respect introverts may end up being stuffed by their often excessive sense of shame over abandonment of others.

It is most definitely true that extroverts have easier time building new relationships. I'm not sure, though, that introversion per se has anything to do with shame or such negative feelings. The introversion/extroversion scale, if I've not misunderstood something, is defined as a measure of what level of external stimuli is optimal for each person. Introverts have minds that are activated by lower levels and durations of external stimuli than extroverts. It's all about maintaining a comfortable level of stimuli.

Here I have to admit that I've not done enough personal researched on subject and that I'm mostly basing my views on personal opinions (shard mostly by other introverts):
The "source of energy model" -- where extroverts are presumed to "acquire" energy and stimulation from social interaction and become bored and drained when alone, and introverts become energized by solitary and introspective activities. It's presumed that we have both aspect in some degree or another, but one is dominant. (With this admission of ignorance in mind, I pledge to go and read the full wiki, at the very least.)

My previous suggestion was based on a view that when depressed. introverts will more readily exclude themselves from the company of others (which is rather inadvisable and counter-productive in case of depression) and... and -- now as I'm formulating this response -- I realise quite a bit of personal projection. :/ Yes I think you're right, an inflamed sense shame is only a personal factor in these situations and is probably not endemic to introverts.

I think the energy acquisition metaphor is needless and misleading. Extroverts do tire of stimuli eventually. Besides, it's a continuum. Those near the introverted extreme of the spectrum find themselves overstimulated and exhausted from relatively little external stimulation whereas those near the extroverted extreme have a very high threshold for overstimulation. Instead of overstimulation, very extroverted people easily suffer from understimulation, also known as boredom. It should be noted that social stimuli are not the only kind of stimuli to people demonstrate a preference of extroversion vs. introversion. It is possible to be satisfied with relatively little social stimulation but require a lot of sensory stimulation, for example. There is actually a wide range of external stimuli an extroverted person may use to keep boredom at bay.

That might be true. I moved cities when I was about 8 or something. I had a big group of friends and I never dared to contact them again. Now I have 2 good friends...

Actually, you might want to look at this article by @abigail-dantes
Particularly the Neuroticism section.
It's something we could both work on :)

Alright. I'll try to remember to take a look at it

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