Steem is at it's lowest price since Feb 2017 and Ethereum faces turbulence

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Things are not looking good for the price of Steem right now

Looking at the chart we can see that the Steem price in BTC is lower than it has been in well over a year. In fact this is one of the all time low prices.

0.00011877 BTC

Yes that is the current price of Steem. Steem was last in this price range at Feb 18 2017. Some additional news related to this is that crypto is being more aggressively banned in Asia. This banning of crypto in my opinion is the cause of the crypto bear market.

Vitalik recently made a statement which I do not agree with. He stated:

Says Days of ‘1,000-Times’ Gains in Crypto Are Over

“If you talk to the average educated person at this point, they probably have heard of blockchain at least once. There isn’t an opportunity for yet another 1,000-times growth in anything in the space anymore.”

Why do I disagree with this quote? He implies that just hearing about something at least once is enough to decide whether to buy into something? A lot of us heard about Bitcoin in 2009-2010 but we didn't have the guts to get into it or couldn't figure out how to mine it or couldn't understand what we were seeing. It takes months or perhaps years for people to go from hearing about something, to researching it deeply, to becoming obsessed with it, to becoming a user/adopter.

I think his statement is very much like the "Crypto is dead" or "Bitcoin is dead" statements we see in every bear market. In addition it is also likely inaccurate if we are basing this merely on his limited perspective. There is poll data available which does show that awareness of crypto is rising. It is probably true that in the United States a lot of people heard about crypto. In addition certain demographics are probably looking to buy crypto at some point.

So here are some numbers for discussion:

So based on these two statistics alone I do not know how Vitalik can make the statement that we are near the ceiling. We are at most half way toward 50 million Americans owning crypto. 50 million Americans is actually a lot of people and a lot of room for growth. If we think of crypto like we think of the personal computer then we are just now in the phase where it is about to go mainstream. The bubble of Dec 2017 in my opinion was not the final bubble nor the bubble where we will see mainstream growth.

Vitalik makes a valid point that it is not enough just to sell the Bitcoin use case (store of value). This use case is nice for people who are already rich who have earned life savings which they want to store. It is a good use case for people who seek to try to hide their wealth or secure their wealth from confiscation. It is a good use case for people who are in countries where their national currency is sh*t. But this is still a limited use case which is why Bitcoin price isn't actually going up right now.

In addition in order for Ethereum to be successful it has to offer real world utility. While Bitcoin can settle for being a store of value and isn't even yet good at that (look at the current price) we can say that Ethereum has the opportunity going forward to offer real utility. The truth is Ethereum currently cannot do this because it can't scale enough to allow for industrial scale applications. Even if Vitalik is right and the whole point is to get people using blockchain technology on a daily basis (mainstream adoption) it is still technically impossible. In fact there is a price to pay for that ability to scale which a lot of people for ideological reasons may choose not to pay.

It is true that Ethereum may be able to someday cure diseases and make people wealthy at the same time. It is true that Ethereum is a token I hold. In addition I'm not an ordinary holder but I actually want to see the platform evolve into something which saves people's lives, which makes life better for people, which makes life easier for people. I can think of many use cases where Ethereum could make my life better (as a digital nomad, as a means of facilitating telework or microwork, as a means of enabling people to live a more free lifestyle while being able to access their resources anywhere on earth). I also unfortunately see a lot of problems going forward for Ethereum which I'm not entirely sure Ethereum will be able to overcome.

Problems include for example the fact that Ethereum is still being mined and will likely continue being mined. This is a problem because mining itself is over paying for security and a wasteful process. Mining actually potentially causes damages depending on how you interpret the costs. So I would say moving to proof of stake must remain a priority. On the other hand EOS and Tezos already are proof of stake. How will Ethereum maintain loyalty of developers? Well I don't think they can because developers will simply port their smart contracts over once it becomes easier enough to do so.

What about the ICOs? ICOs in my opinion were the best use case for Ethereum. In particular it allowed anyone to raise money to pursue entrepreneurship or create jobs. In my opinion if done right this could be wonderful for the economy and provide a real use case. The problem is regulators don't yet understand the potential of smart contracts and once again the scammers tend to be early adopters of new technology. The scams end up getting a lot more attention than the legitimate projects unfortunately. That being said if there is a rule change by the SEC which can allow investors to waive SEC protection when participating in crowdsales, ICOs, etc, then in my opinion it would provide the regulatory clarity necessary for the market to grow.

What about the security token? This is the idea that actual companies can sell shares via the blockchain which may pay dividends or sell real estate etc. In my opinion this is the biggest possible use case for Ethereum in the near future. Once again the lack of regulatory clarity is delaying this. It's also the inability of Ethereum to scale which prevents stock market 2.0 from being created.

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extremely well said Dana. Regards Nainaz.

I am glad you brought this up. Vitalik said, the days of 1000x gains are gone in the Crypto space. Meaning you can't get a ridiculous 10,000% returns on anything in the blockchain anymore like with buying BTC at $1 or ETH ICO at 40 cents.

From what I researched and heard people like Binance CEO are saying 20X-50X returns are possible over next 5 years.

I tend to agree since that valuing Cryptos in total around the market total market cap of Gold $7 to $10 Trillion.

I think of course you can still get 1000x returns. There will be ICOs in the future for all sorts of stuff which we can't even imagine yet. There will be securities tokens in the future which might be profitable companies and even the next Berkshire Hathaway. We simply cannot predict what opportunities can exist or will exist.

As far as the total value of crypto? We also cannot predict that in the long term. So when you say $10 trillion are you referring to by 2020 or some specific date? Because crypto could end up being worth 100 trillion over 20 years as tokens can represent anything stocks can represent and really any asset.

So I avoid trying to make these sorts of predictions. If we are talking about returns in Bitcoin then I can totally understand. Bitcoin probably can't go up 1000x because it already went up. Ethereum on the other hand can still go up 100x from the price it is today and within months at that. So I would agree that Ethereum can't go up another 1000x but then there are other tokens which can.

Especially weird for Vitalik to make that statement right now when this is the best time to buy crypto at these prices. He would have been more correct if he said it back in December during the bubble. Now in a bear market where you can get certain projects for pennies then actually yes we are back in the days where you can catch an ICO or even an established project at 40cents.

The 'crypto is dead' chants are not new, what I love about it is that they get to eat their words every time.

More Americans will invest in crypto as innovative platforms like steemit grow popular. I am not bothered at all, rather I see this as the perfect time to invest

As a former stockbroker, and a longtime buy and hold investor, the downturn in Steem's price, or of cryptos in general, doesn't bother me.

If anything, it's a strong buy signal.

I might feel differently if more of those preaching doom and gloom for cryptos seemed to actually have a handle on the financial markets in general, but my impression thus far is anything but.

In addition, most in finance don't truly understand blockchain, or the many ways in which it may well change how we do business, so their forecasts are equally suspect, if not entirely irrelevant.

The bottom line is that most world governments are being financially irresponsible, the US is currently the worst offender, and it is highly likely that we will witness a crash of world fiat currencies that will make even paltry sums of decent cryptos worth far more in the future.

I am still very bullish on cryptos, and especially on Steem, as its blockchain is so much faster than the vast majority of them. It still has massive upside potential in my opinion

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I'm still prettty bullish on cryptocurrency and last here was all hype these projects need to vbe valued on merit and whay they can bring to the world. I'm happy i get a almost second chance at these low prices to set my various positions in certain projects I like and hopefuly if we do get another run ill be sitting pretty. Only coin in my portfolio I would not sell would be STEEM since im starting to use it more and more

it hurts to see the rate of steem these days but these are the buying days of steem and many people are buying steem ... its power up time 😍

I agree. When things get cheap this is when dollar cost averaging pays off. People who are doing dollar cost averaging can win right now. People who are thinking that crypto is dead or can't go up anymore are the ones who might be in FOMO if there is another bull run. The whole point is to buy low and sell high when it comes to assets.

Vitalik did have a point that we need real utility. The problem is the infrastructure for that to happen on Ethereum is incomplete. We don't have Casper. We don't have sharding. So what utility is even possible with such a rudimentary network? There isn't even the case that Ethereum is a store of value and the ICO hype has whittled down.

Tokens like Digix? That is a store of value. Securities tokens could also become a store of value. I do not think Bitcoin or Ethereum are stores of value. People buy them because they tend to go up due to bubbles. Speculation bubbles don't change the fact that in Bitcoin new tokens get created by miners daily and the same too with Ethereum.

Companies have to profit. They are good assets because companies grow. Ethereum doesn't profit and even if it offers utility at some point it does not mean people will want to hold an inflating token supply.

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The way I look at it is that @ some point there is going to be another global $ crash. That will make crypto seem much more attractive as an investment... especially functional ones, and steem is certainly one of those.

It is a good time to snaffle up a few hudred, maybe even a fee thousand more steem!

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I think Steem may have potential when SMTs and other features launch. Right now Steem is in the same position as Ethereum and Bitcoin. That position is that Steem does not offer enough utility to attract new users and demand for the token.

In my opinion, Vitalik might just be bottom feeding while he perpetrates all this FUD. This is how the rich get richer... simple pumping it all down then sucking it all up. I would like to know all his short positions. He has nothing to lose going forward, does he?

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