My Test to Increase Page Authority Failed...Why? (Crowdsourcing a response)
Hey guys, just wanted to fill you up on my test to increase the page authority of a steemit.com account. It failed utterly and I will be giving a 100% upvote to the person who can help me figure out what happened.
Recap
A few months back, I was making a test to figure out if I could increase the page authority of @ucluelet and see if I could use it to boost the SEO of my clients. So far, it's a total fail.
I've tried everything in my arsenal...everything.
Yet, it you go on moz and check what my link profile look like here
Nothing.
Somehow, none of the backlinks that I've added showed up.
Im crowdsourcing a response
You can win $10 of upvote if you can find why (with proof) it didn't work at all and why none of the backlinks shows up.
It is because the links you added didn't have high trust rating or high page authority. Only the first 7 links to that page had positive impact. But Google may have detected your linking as spam.
If you add to many links from the same location using the same browser, then Google will consider that cheating and will punish that by putting it in the bottom. I am quite confident that this is what happened here.
You also appear to believe Do Follow links increase the authority which is not at all true. The authority or some like to call it, trust rating depends on various factors such as engagement, social shares, content quality (Google's bots are now getting better at this), formatting of posts, likelyhood of spam etc etc.
And the page authority is showing zero because the page hasn't been indexed. The actual authority is probably around 10-20. Using other tools, I found that there are at least 130 linkbacks to your link.
Is the 108 links from magicseaweed .com your doing? If so, then disavow those links. They are probably doing more harm than good.
I was also going to just suggest the MOZTrust tool. I still cannot understand though why the page auth is still indicating zero.
thanks for the response. magicseaweed is a good forum about surfing that I started participating in. But to be honest, I'm surprised...not even getting above 1 in page authority is pitiful. I would expect at least something more than 1.
hey @cryptoctopuss -
I count 22 total backlinks from 4 domains.
Of the 22 backlinks pointing at your page from the 4 domains I see the following indicators that are either negatively effecting or having no effect (positive or negative) at all:
5 of those links are coming from a domain that has not been crawled since july 27th. This also happens to be your second ranked domain when considering Domain Score and Trust Score. That being said, they are relatively low at 16 and 32 respectively on a scale of 100. This can be interpreted in many ways, however, I would argue that even though they are low scores they would have a very slight net positive effect on your page.
7 of the 22 links from a different domain were crawled today but these links are irrelevant at this point as the domain has a Domain AND Trust Score of 0/100. I could make a case that at the moment, these are actually hurting your rank.
Domain use case three with 2 backlinks pointing to your page has a Domain Score of 1/100 and Trust Score of 29/100. Hard to say this hurt nor helps and arguments on both sides could be accepted.
Your best backlinks come from domain use case number 4 which includes a total of 8 links. This domain is doing the most work for you at the moment with an average Domain Score of 38 and average Trust Score of 42.
Edit: In addition at a high level, I cross checked with another db and found 137 links total with 124 of them with Domain Authority in the 10-20 range and 13 in the 0-10 range.
In sum: The DA of your backlinks are not of quality or trust. They also increased at at very fast rate (30ish links to 100ish in a short timeframe). Google doesn't trust the page as a result of it not trusting the backlinks.
MOST IMPORTANTLY...even if you were to find a way to build up the PA, I don't realistically see your steemit page as a viable way to boost the SEO of any site. Of course, we don't know this for sure and testing is fun but I wouldn't even consider that technique for a client unless your client is impressed by big backlink numbers on reports. If that's the case, to each their own. I see my time better utilized using other methods though.
Disclosure: I kept the domain names private, I can provide them to you if you want.
Disclosure 2: This utilized database results with filters set to United States Google data.
Thank you. Why wouldn't it not be good to have dofollow backlinks from steemit? After all, it's a 68 in page authority.
No problem.
It's not that it's not good, that wasn't what I was trying to convey.
in short, no one really knows for sure, right? if we did, we'd be billionaires. that's why i sprinkled in a comment in there that it's good to test things like this, but i'd prob test it on a dummy test domain i own, not a clients.
Regardless, i don't really think that it is hurting you or helping you at the moment.
One scenario where it could hurt you down the road is if we know that your page is so diverse in information and google's algo read's that as spam because it's not related to the content on the domain you are trying to boost it with. Again though, that's nothing but an educated guess but it's become increasingly clear that relevant and quality content from a related niche is better than just a random backlink (with the exceptions being something like the NYT or Post, etc.)
Edit: Also @cryptoctopus - remember that moz is just one tool and they coined the metric that is the result of their tool "Page Authority"...
There are other tools out there with similar formula's/metrics. Using another tool, they have your page at around a 13
thanks 4 sharing
Hi @cryptoctopus
It's very likely that Moz missed those backlinks. I'd suggest you to wait for their next update.
Also, submit your backlinks URL to Google index if they are not yet indexed. Your backlink should be indexed on Google.
If everything is alright on Google Index, then ask Moz Community for the reason.
According to Moz The page have more powerful or important link profiles than others This can be accomplished by getting external links from other high-authority pages.Share your posts on all social media platforms and resteemed by higher PA users will get your Page Authority High.The PA for @cryptoctopus is 45 now analyze it yourself
the @cryptoctopus account has linked and resteem multiple times these articles. To no effect sadly.
Well let's resteem @ucluelet articles by other whales accounts as much possible and see the result
Maybe because @ucluelet has less activity on steemit and only few followers.
In comparison to @cryptoctopus who has more followers and bunch of posts on steemit , it has greater page authority
Thanks for the submission. I've built at least 50 DoFollow links all over the place (including forum links) which still doesn't appear.
forum links? no disrespect but how do you find paying clients that will accept forum links as a good use of billable hours. It sounds like you found the golden goose.
forum links won't achieve anything in 2017 but vanity metrics.
Edit: I'm going to back off this statement a little bit. If it is a content relevant very specific and authoritative forum in your niche, i don't see it having a metric ton of weight but I do believe it will nudge the needle.
But you have no engagement or followers here. This shows you as dead to the search engines I think. do you actually have people commenting and interacting? Or is it all by automation?
Google doesn't care about Dofollow or nofollow. It is constantly looking for popular and valuable content. Read my response at the bottom for more.
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In my experience, it could take 3-6 weeks for bl's to be indexed. I think it all depends on site popularity.
Thanks for the submission. It has been 6 weeks, this is why I'm crowdsourcing a response. :-)
Check MOZtrust score.
Por que @cryptoctopus. I thought you had found the solution to make us millionaires. Do you know why it didnt work and just using the reward to see if anyone else can find it? Im an SEO newb, but have a resteem to see if anyone else can help.
I've been here since June and my page has a rank of 1, no back links and I've done nothing to try to improve it.
Maybe you're sandboxed or black listed in some way.