Politically correct
Is it just me or is being politically correct wherever you are going way too far lately?
Checking up on some posts on r/livestreamfail which is basically clips and highlights from Twitch which don't necessarily have to be fails as the name of the subreddit, I stumbled upon this, screenshot:
For those unaware, that's the famous Canadian DJ and music producer Deadmau5 who not long ago started streaming on Twitch. I believe he streams when he's composing new music but also some gaming here and there. Now as I was reading his apology which if you've followed him for some time may seem like its not even coming from him, probably his PR team trying to do damage control. Either way I'm reading and getting more and more curious as to what lead up to this, what could he possibly have done that required such an apology to Twitch, his viewers, friends and family? wut?
As it turns out things had gotten pretty heated in a game and he had raged onto another gamer calling him a "fag", gotten banned from Twitch for that and then been pissed off at Twitch cause it was a heated argument which didn't necessarily mean he was using the word in its literal definition. After having received more negativity and backlash for his half-assed apology and blaming Twitch to have been too fast to judge the situation and ban him it seems now that he's stepping back a few more steps with this apology.
Now, I realize Twitch has their own Terms of Service and they can't allow this kind of language because their advertisers will get mad about it, but holy shit this is some ridiculous bullshit if you think about it.
I don't want to defend Deadmau5 and I don't want to defend people lashing out in games or that its the "heat of the moment" that makes people do these things, but banning someone for saying a few bad words? Like, what? This whole thing seems so backwards and ripe for going down in a deathspiral sooner than most expect. Even though Twitch has been growing as a platform over the years it just seems more and more obvious to me that they will never get rid of the reach of the advertisers, cause those are the ones providing the revenue and being the ones in control. In a way Twitch would be nothing without advertisement revenue.
Think about it. Literally everyone hates ads. Ads are the only thing keeping this alive. I'm not the best at math but there is something that just doesn't compute in that equation.
It's going to be interesting to see dapps and projects relying on a rewardpool instead of adrevenue to grow. I realize it may take longer but I can't even begin to imagine the difference that will entail. I can't help but feel sorry for content creators who are literally living in fear cause all of their work they've put into their streaming career is in the hands of Twitch admins that can just flick a switch and end it cause you called someone a word you shouldn't have. I may be oldschool but I can't imagine a world where you have to constantly watch out what you say while you're doing things like gaming which obviously is quite intense and can get the worst out of you in the heat of the moment. I find it odd how content creators are just accepting this if I didn't know any better that there currently aren't any other solutions that are just as big and popular as Twitch and Youtube. It's the same thing on all of them, though. If there is no ad revenue to be made there is no revenue except donations.
Even donations lose a big percentage to these middlemen, how fucked up isn't that?
I don't know, I just get really frustrated at these things. So much power in one company that has a history of taking sides and being biased towards users and genders.
It seems as though over time these rules and implications will drive streamers to just change themselves which could potentially change the whole way they operate. Imagine if you had to play intense ranked games in your favorite first person shooters but had to constantly stop yourself or watch yourself for what the next words are you are about to say. Readers and viewers are going down the path of being politically correct and haters probably just sit there and wait for you to do one mistake so they can end your online career. It's kind of crazy.
Again I'm not trying to defend Deadmau5 here, I'm guessing he will get a special treatment due to who he is and get unbanned sooner or later but imagine all the newcomer, low viewer streamers that may share the same fate and not get a comeback.
I don't like the road it has paved for future streamers and I can't wait for decentralized services that won't give a shit what their advertisers think about the way streamers behave that they are pasting their ads on. If people get so offended by some streamers using certain language or being certain people than just stop watching them and move on. This whole thing about apologizing twice because you realize you're not in control is just ridiculous. I doubt Deadmau5 is apologizing because he needs that adrevenue, it's probably because he has started to enjoy streaming and the community and doesn't want that to abruptly end.
Oh well, what can you do. It feels like more and more centralized services are digging their grave more and more as blockchain projects are growing day by day. It's going to be an interesting next few years for people involved in the space.
What are your thoughts on this whole ordeal?
I realize that this may also be due to ToS that kids may be watching your streams thus "bad words" are not allowed, but come on. Every kid learns most of the swearwords due to curiosity before they even hit puberty.
honestly the whole political correctness kind of thing is fucked up. My main issue because my country has not being affected that much yet is with the movies and series that i am watching. They are changing famous comic characters, mythical historic characters, actual historic ones etc etc and push us scenes that have no meaning just for the sake of the political correctness. Regarding that my answer is simple. Don't force this kinda shit into famous series and movies that coming from existing comics and books with already established characters. Just create something completely new and unique with all of these in and if it succeed it did, if not not.
The real thing is that people are unaware (because of stupidity and immaturity) is the fact that these people that "belong" into the political correctness categories are being take advantage of for the sake of money.
A few examples are the black panther movie which was quite a medium one but because it's full of black people (as it should) the media and corporation behind it promote it as "a movie for the African american community", it was even free during their national day. In the Aquaman one director i think said "thanks for supporting a movie with many people of color"
Wtf that means? that the other movies don't have people of color and are a product of only white men? In a country that almost everyone is a people of color or has ancestors of 1-4 generations back that were? The results are that these movies because of this promotion manage to obtain 1 billion in profits!
Another example of how they take advantage of this situation that in my opinion some people created for that purpose (more money), some stupid ones took part that had nothing better to do in their lives and the media made it that big is the celebrities that state that are with them while at the same time they create and sell clothes and aromas especially for these communities
Now you see that this has such a huge impact although the actual members that represent this kind of communities and behaviors are just a few. Somehow we have for example 10 people of let's say lgtb community "representing" the 1 million actual lgtb people that don't feel special or offended by instead like normal people
I was going to comment, then saw this and agree that it was said much better than I could have said it.
The way political correctness is being used today, it is simply another form of control. What makes it worse is when people jump on things that have been taken out of context and spread around..... and then all the "followers" jump in for the squash, without ever having bothered to take a look at where it came from to begin with. Sad..... exasperating.
That put my thoughts on the matter really nicely, thanks.
The PC bullshit keeps going stronger and stronger. It's censoring free speech everywhere! One wrong word, you get blocked by social media, get smeared by the media or get arrested! Screw those SJW's with their PC. The worst part, institutions and governments are forcing laws and regulation on how people are supposed to talk, Orwellian "new speak" agenda, and if you don't, you get jail time. Examples of this nonsense:
wtf those articles...
Crazy isn't it, there's a lot of weirdness going on in the world.
I think it's all a distraction from what is really going on.
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Society never seems to find balance. We just continually fishtail back and forth. It's getting even worse these days; just look at our last two presidents.
Blockchain can lower the bar for professionals in a big way. I think 10% of all gamers will make money on average in the next ten years. More importantly, that revenue will not be dependent on advertising and sponsorship.
When I was growing up, saying the word "fag" was as easy as breathing. Our heads were filled with brainwash and discriminatory language as children, but now they want to punish us for the lessons they taught two decades prior? Unbelievable.
It would be like telling someone to stop being religious. Yeah, not going to happen. The only thing that is going to happen is that people are going to suppress their behavior out of fear, which is obviously extremely unhealthy in itself. Repression has a way of bubbling out over time in an even more detrimental way than the original problem.
This is sad. These people are going too far with Political Correctness.
Something similar happened to Kevin Hart because of something he said almost a decade ago.
Platforms like Youtube and Twitch depend a lot on ads.
I can't tell mich about Twitch but Youtube should add a donation platform, so that the creators are less reliant on advertising and maybe tax a really small percentage of the donations, so that the platform gets another revenue stream.
I think many people are getting fed up with this. The reaction to last year's Youtube rewind was overwhelmingly negative, so I see potential in less PC platforms like d.tube and Bitchute.
Speaking of d.tube...anyone know a good channel on d.tube?
I'd recommend @theycallmedan for some crypto insight. :)
Cool. I'll be checking him :)
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Hi, I can give some information but we English is bad excuse me:(.
For twitch the biggest incomes are the ads + subs, for a channel of 3000 sub at 5$, the ads still represent 70% of the channel's income (which is huge) and for information you have to be a partner to get back a % earned by the ads, affiliate them (like me only gets back $1.75-2$ per sub of 5$ and 0$ of the ads), a partner can have up to 3.75$ per sub and gets back a % of the ads.
For my part, I earn about $200 a month from subscribers ^^.
Insults are not prohibited if the streamer puts the +18 in the parameters except that 90% of the partners do not put it because they lose a HUGE % on the income of the ads (there are fewer passages because minors do not see the stream in the list)
Twitch will NEVER let go of the ads and they had even managed to get past the ad blockers.
I think PC was/is a good thing but nowadays too much PC has become totally un-PC shoving one’s own view down the throat of others.
Yes, we should generally improve our tolerance and “live and let live” stance but holy fkn noodles... know a joke when a joke is a joke. A joke doesn’t necessarily mean that the person - whom you more often than not don’t know - actually also lives by those standards.
Yes, I realize the situation wasn’t about a joke, tyvm. That said Joe Root, the English cricketer, was better when he said this week “Don’t use it as an insult, there’s nothing wrong with being gay”. :D
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that and I'm not sure if that was everything he said, was a really long thread. Words do have other meanings and considering people tend to lose it every now and then in intense games it reminds me of this Louis CK clip:
I just don't think that should be something that should get you banned off of any website, though. Lose followers/fans, sure. Apologize and realize that's not something you should've said, sure. Does saying the N word in a similar situation make Pewdiepie a racist? Yeah I don't really think so.
You're right though, people seem to be taking the PC thing so far it's kinda losing its meaning in my opinion.
I oppose the bans, obviously as a decentralization fan. LOL
I do not think that a mega outcry like those we’ve had in recent years, always results in education.
It risks ending up in fearmongering too. What did Henry Cavill say about dating in the early months of #MeToo again?
Yet, he was also vilified for it.
So basically... even thoughtful expressions aren’t welcome anymore unless they toe the line? That isn’t what PC is about. PC is about challenging our possible misconceptions, not about brainwashing us and limiting our freedom of expression.
Or did I miss a memo about what it was supposed to be?
Yeah, I'm not sure I entirely agree with you... I went to an all-boys highschool where the word 'gay' was used constantly as a negative and used as an insult pretty much every minute of every day... and I imagine that's a pretty rough environment for anyone who is actually gay. In those days no one would ever come out during high school, it honestly would have been pretty dangerous...
So I agree that Twitch are pretty heavy with the ban hammer, but where do you draw the line? As far as I remember, I think Twitch has a few levels of banning, like 1 day, 7, days, 30 days and permanent. So I'm not sure if Deadmau was banned permanently or not... but when I used to play COD online, the voicechat was pretty brutal, so I'm sure kids have heard everything, but if I was Twitch I'd probably go heavy as well...
Totally agree that it opens the door for a VIMM or similar to embrace those that what to heat it up in the moment. There's definitely an audience there.
I've been in a similar situation where that word was one of the most popular negative things you could say to someone and similar to the clip I posted in the comment above at one point it just lost its meaning. I am pretty sure the majority of kids that used it never meant it literally, but that probably depends from situation to situation. I just don't think setting that border is going to do well for the freedom of streamers and viewers, it's bringing along this sense of fakeness and scripted content that will bring down the quality of streamers in general where every one has to carefully consider anything they say.
Again, I'm not singling out that word only, in this day and age there are a lot of very popular words that some can say and some can't that can bring you in a lot of trouble. It just seems weird that some do face the consequences while some don't - this is directed at Twitch who have a big history of being biased of who and why they ban and don't ban.
Let the wisdom of the crowd select who and what they follow based on their own judgement, not the judgement of people with too much power that rely on adrevenue. Can't wait to see how the quality will develop with streamers and content producers that can be more "themselves" rather than have these rules in the back of their head constantly.
Oh yeah, context is absolutely everything... I've got mates that swear constantly and don't mean anything by it and honestly, anything can be highly offensive when said with enough venom.
I think we all modify our behaviour given context... we tend not to swear as much in a corporate office, or around our grandparents or amongst a bunch of kids, and so I thought that's what their angle was, trying to protect the kids/audience you can't see... but if they're being choosy, inconsistent, ad-loving jerks then screw 'em.
we always hope for truth in every political
Don't waste your breath on this. It's coming on steemit too.